our economic collapse began much earlier.
Posted on 06/12/2023 4:31:02 AM PDT by Phoenix8
…..“ All of a sudden, Washington is reckoning with the fact that so many parts and pieces of munitions, planes, and ships it needs are being manufactured overseas, including in China. Among the deficiencies: components of solid rocket motors, shell casings, machine tools, fuses and precursor elements to propellants and explosives, many of which are made in China and India. Beyond that, skilled labor is sorely lacking, and the learning curve is steep. The U.S. has slashed defense workers to a third of what they were in 1985 — a number that has remained flat — and seen some 17,000 companies leave the industry, said David Norquist, president of the National Defense Industrial Association”.
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
We are no longer the military power of the world we were since 1944 or so. We can’t even make enough of our our own Vit C, and went to having 3/4 of the worlds capital warships (USA built mostly) to having about 1% of the worlds shipbuilding capacity. In the article it says our shell casings and fuses are being made in China and India etc. Even worse it goes on that it’s isn’t a matter of money, we could throw a trillion dollars a year at the problem and we couldn’t rebound fast. We just don’t have the factories anymore.
I can’t believe we got that collectively stupid so fast, it has to be conspiracy.
The part nobody is talking about is why would we need to go to war with China? We literally have no reason to do so other than to fulfill the dreams of the neocon chickenhawks. Also you could completely stop selling arms to Taiwan and China still could not invade and occupy the island, just look at the logistics alone and you see it is an impossibility.
I can’t believe we got that collectively stupid so fast, it has to be conspiracy.
The important thing is that everybody at the Pentagram is using the correct pronouns.
Everything else is secondary.
Mark this post: Joe Biden will be responsible for starting WW3. His complete fook-ups in Afghanistan, Ukraine and mis-steps with Taiwan will light the match that starts WW3.
We'll be lucky if it doesn't go nuclear, and China isn't on our west coast taking California.
Oh hell, they can HAVE California - it's communist already.
The ChiComs don’t do hot wars.
They have no need.
They just buy a nation’s pols.
The ChiComs have now taken a number of countries without firing a shot.
Including Taiwan, but they don't want the US to know that, so they can continue to steal anything we give to Taiwan.
It’s pathetic how stupid we can be as a country, and for how long.
but they may want to go to war with us
our economic collapse began much earlier.
I agree. Having cheap plastic toys made in China is one thing, but totally stupid to rely on any other nation to build our military equipment. Also our medications. And they want to make us use EVs, but who controls the minerals and metals needed for batteries?
You’re right, the US would have to look for a reason to end up at war with China. But I disagree with your assessment that Taiwan is unconquerable, especially for a rich nation 90 miles away.
“The Pentagon Is Freaking Out About a Potential War With China”
As they properly should. Scream and shout, run about, until someone comes along and knocks you to the floor.
Unprepared is pretty much the normal situation under a Democrat President. Look back in history, at Woodrow Wilson, at FDR, at Truman, at Kennedy-Johnson, at Jimmy Carter, at Bill Clinton, at Barack Obama, at sleepy old Joe Biden. One of the first acts, as they take office, is to hollow out the military force as it existed at the time, then in a panic, they try to overcome the deficit by crash programs and widespread civilian shortages. And always, a vast increase in taxation and limits on the civilian population.
Eisenhower, for one, fully understood the value of a large peacetime standing military presence, as did Nixon, Reagan, the Bush I-Bush-II Presidents, and Donald Trump.
“I can’t believe we got that collectively stupid so fast, it has to be conspiracy.”
See Post #2, it was more due to us rationalizing away any and all threats. In the case of Russia, our GNP is 10 times Russia, so no threat to us, even if they kept developing and producing munitions and other weapons for the past 20 years. All we would have to do, I guess, is convert our law offices, medical facilities, restaurants, 5 bedroom homes, shopping malls, and everything else that contributes to 95% of our GNP into war factories. The fact that Russia kept their Cold War factories in storage, in case they were needed in the future was nothing for us to worry about, because they’re not dumb enough to pick a fight with our much bigger GNP.
In the case of China - that’s easy, they’re a Third World country that cannot even feed their own people. And they make nothing more advanced than crappy toys that Walmart sells, so why should we worry about China (the fact that they also make my computer, phone, plus twice as many new cars as any other country, plus the world’s fastest passenger trains, but I’ll just ignore that because the Americans have big supermarkets). So China can never be a threat to us, even if they’re manufacturing base is already 5 times ours.
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company Ltd (TSMC) produces roughly 90% of the world's most sophisticated computer chips 1.
The defense of Taiwan is VERY REAL and China most definitely has plans to bring Taiwan under its complete control by all means (including military, intelligence, economic, and political).
China is already at war with the U.S. (and Taiwan). It is just not waging war out in the open (i.e., they are following Sun Tzu's advice).
Look at what Russia is doing to us and they are only half heartedly doing it. If China, Russia, and their allies went all in were in big trouble. And that’s not counting their nuclear weapons. In fact Russia now has more naval shipbuilding capabilities than us, and China is leaps ahead of us. Russia also has a better defense production industry.
Also look at what Russia is doing in Ukraine. The slow burn is more effective than any zerg rush would have been as it kept the West in a drunken stupor instead of waking it up like a rapid conquest of Ukraine would have.
“But I disagree with your assessment that Taiwan is unconquerable, especially for a rich nation 90 miles away.”
Consider this: Taiwan has 23 million people, you would need 1 chinese soldier for every 3 taiwan citizens to occupy and pacify the island, and china has no way to transport troops except by a few transports that can hold maybe 1000 soldiers each. So imagine the time and money spent sending 7 million troops back and forth 90 miles across the ocean, and assuming you can do all that without Taiwan sinking any of those ships, and that is not even considering the guerilla warfare involved with occupation.
speaking strictly of military capabilities please see my #18 post
I’m not sure Taiwan can be taken militarily while keeping their industrial assets intact. I think the chip business has been moving from Taiwan gradually since the beginning of the pandemic.
It would be interesting to see numbers on that. I’m curious now.
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