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Russia's defences are 'more fragile than thought' Western officials reveal amid growing signs Ukraine's counter-offensive IS underway
The Daily Mail ^ | June 5, 2023 | NATASHA ANDERSON

Posted on 06/05/2023 1:00:27 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

Russia's defences could be 'more fragile than thought', western officials have warned amid growing signs that Ukraine's counter-offensive has begun.

Ukrainian forces have advanced in Novodonetsk by up to five or six kilometres, it has emerged. Officials claim 'fierce battles are going on' for control of the settlement.

American and European military officials advising Kyiv have claimed that Kremlin defensive lines may be fragile, an insider told The Economist today.

Semyon Pegov, a prominent Kremlin-affiliated 'milblogger', confirmed that Ukraine had 'some success' in an attack in Novoselivka-Ugledar and claimed updates from the Russian-controlled region were 'more and more alarming every hour'.

Pegov, commonly known under his alias Wargonzo, said the war is 'heating up' and that today's attack was 'much more serious than yesterday'.

Ukrainian forces punched through Russian defensive lines in southeast Ukraine for a second day, with Russian officials saying today that Moscow's forces have foiled at least one assault.

Kyiv said their forces were indeed increasing offensive operations and making gains, but suggested some of the Russian announcements were misinformation as speculation grows about a widely anticipated counteroffensive after more than 15 months of war.

Vladimir Rogov, an official in the Russia-backed administration of Ukraine's partly occupied Zaporizhzhia province, said fighting resumed on its border with the eastern Donetsk province on Monday after Russian defenses beat back a Ukrainian advance the previous day.

'The enemy threw an even bigger force into the attack than yesterday (Sunday),' and the new attempt to break through the front line was 'more large-scale and organised,' Rogov said, adding: 'A battle is underway.'

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: 0bidenlover; 0trolltrolliam; counteroffensive; europe; globalistpropaganda; natashaanderson; nato; russia; spamspamspam; ukraine; war
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Thanks Timber Rattler.
The Kremlin often claimed it had the second-strongest military in the world, and many believed it. Today, many see Russia's military as the second-strongest in Ukraine.
·Antony J. Blinken, June 2, 2023

61 posted on 06/05/2023 2:28:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpers are Republicans the same way Liz Cheney is a Republican.)
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To: Timber Rattler

I’m still waiting for you to show anything he has said about Ukraine that has not been correct. And don’t call me dude.


62 posted on 06/05/2023 2:30:39 PM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: dominusobiscum

No, I am sick of the DNC and their city ilk. They won’t leave anyone alone. They are already dead to me, but tell me the New Republica emerging out of that type situation doesn’t beat the DNC, FBI, CIA, Biden, ANTIFA, BLM. Maybe I die if Biden keeps it up too, but at least this nation will be cleansed from the corrupt DNC. Don’t suppose. I am sure at some future point in your life if you ain’t drinking Bud Light you’ll be thinking about alternatives to what we’ve got now.


63 posted on 06/05/2023 2:31:31 PM PDT by Jumper ( )
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To: JoSixChip
Sure thing, champ!

For one thing, Mercouris claimed that the Ukrainians would never retake Kherson.

64 posted on 06/05/2023 2:33:02 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

You can find it on Utube, Rumble, and in some the front line MOD reports coming out of both sides.


65 posted on 06/05/2023 2:33:46 PM PDT by Jumper ( )
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To: Timber Rattler
For one thing, Mercouris claimed that the Ukrainians would never retake Kherson.

No, no he didn't. And for the record, Russia just left Kherson. Ukraine never took it, they were never capable of it.
66 posted on 06/05/2023 2:36:28 PM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: Jumper

“””Better that Russia defends herself and destroys the Communist West than we conservatives be forced to continue dealing with Wokesters.”””

Incredible.


67 posted on 06/05/2023 2:40:08 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ModelBreaker
It's exactly like COVID news - not one article emanating from the government-media complex can be taken at face value.

Can't some reliable military source like the South Armenia Shopping News be cited, instead? :)

68 posted on 06/05/2023 2:41:11 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Timber Rattler

Daily Propaganda.


69 posted on 06/05/2023 2:43:52 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Jumper
Now as a republican and conservative, it would not hurt my feelings in the least should a bunch of US cities run by democrats and Joe Biden disappear.

Republicans and conservatives do not make statements that border on Treason. Let me remind you of how our Constitution defines that crime:

“Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”

You are making a statement in favor of mass destruction of our cities and the deaths of millions of Americans by a foreign power. I suggest you rethink your position.

70 posted on 06/05/2023 3:07:35 PM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.")
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To: Timber Rattler

Hard to tell what’s really happening day-to-day when reporters from both sides are not allowed free access. There’s no objective news reporting. We have to wait until an outcome becomes so obvious that nobody can deny it, i.e., somebody produces Zelensky’s or Putin’s body.


71 posted on 06/05/2023 3:10:46 PM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: JoSixChip

So Putin’s doing nothing. Thanks for the clarification.


72 posted on 06/05/2023 3:22:56 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Sunsong
The Russian Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov, let out some time ago that the US, NATO, and Russia had been discussing truce and peace terms for some time, with Lavrov derisive of the terms offered. With such discussions ongoing or at least easily renewed, progress on the battlefield can readily result in a truce or peace.
73 posted on 06/05/2023 3:29:12 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Jumper

That probably sounded better in the original Russian.


74 posted on 06/05/2023 3:50:23 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: Rockingham

—” In addition to fighting for their county on their own soil with better weapons than the Russians, Ukrainians have modern, NATO style organization and doctrine that emphasize maneuver, flexibility, and rapid decision-making.”

All that and a cadre of NCOs that are well-trained, tested, and allowed to think on their feet!
And that is a very big deal.

https://mwi.usma.edu/the-plas-weak-backbone-is-china-struggling-to-professionalize-its-noncommissioned-officer-corps/


75 posted on 06/05/2023 3:57:26 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: Timber Rattler

This is about nothing other than the deep state paying back weapons manfacturers. Four years of Donald Trump put a dent in the bribe and graft of the defense industry. It’s why the generals and congress people are in a tizzy. Trump interupted the gravy train.


76 posted on 06/05/2023 3:59:35 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: JoSixChip

Google is your friend.

Post 5:

“This thing will be over by 2023, and the Russian will have everything they want.”

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4100779/posts

And note that you said “by 2023”, not “in 2023”

So you see, you make BS predictions too.

I think I am owed an apology.


77 posted on 06/05/2023 4:17:54 PM PDT by dominusobiscum (Scripture is infallible, interpretations of Scripture not so much.)
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To: JoSixChip

>>Russia just left Kherson. Ukraine never took it, they were never capable of it.

Fill in the blanks with me:

Russia left khereson allowing Ukraine to _ _ _ _ it.

I will spot you the “t” and “e”


78 posted on 06/05/2023 4:22:18 PM PDT by dominusobiscum (Scripture is infallible, interpretations of Scripture not so much.)
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To: Jumper

So sick of Democrats you want cites where they lived nuked.

Yes, you are sick, and treasonous.


79 posted on 06/05/2023 4:24:19 PM PDT by dominusobiscum (Scripture is infallible, interpretations of Scripture not so much.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Good point. Russia and China never developed a reliable and effective Western-style NCO systems. As autocratic nations, both find good NCOs problematic because they tend to be loyal to and advocate for their troops when officers or the state mistreat them. That was the reason why the USSR had weak NCOs with political officers to keep watch on the troops and the NCOs.
80 posted on 06/05/2023 5:39:50 PM PDT by Rockingham
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