Posted on 05/31/2023 7:36:07 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
The poll, which sampled respondents from May 26-28, found little movement for DeSantis after he launched a presidential bid last week. It also showed Trump maintaining a large lead over GOP hopefuls.
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In other words, that means DeSantis’s announcement–which face serious technical issues on his Twitter Spaces move with Elon Musk–does not seem to have changed the trajectory of the race at all.
DeSantis also performed worse than Trump against Biden in a hypothetical general matchup among all voters. Forty-three percent said they would vote for Biden, while 40 percent backed DeSantis. Meanwhile, the voters split their support behind both Trump and Biden at 43 percent each.
“These numbers may be best considered as a test of electability — a key issue in party primaries that carries all the more significance this time around given concerns about Trump’s baggage and whether the GOP should work to maintain Trump’s coalition or to try to expand its base,” Yokley wrote.
2024 National Republican Primary
• Trump — 56% (+34)
• DeSantis — 22%
• Pence — 5%
• Haley — 4%
• Ramaswamy — 4%
• T. Scott — 3%
• Cheney — 2%
• Noem — 1%
• Hutchinson — 1%Morning Consult | 3,485 RV | 05/26-28https://t.co/l71qO5QJDL pic.twitter.com/MypzlZzrZ7
— InteractivePolls (@IAPolls2022) May 31, 2023
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Trump has showed us the real enemy, the rino’s and the main stream media. Reagan never did. We have learned who the real enemies are since the elevator ride in 2015.
Trump has showed us the real enemy, the rino’s and the main stream media. Reagan never did. We have learned who the real enemies are since the elevator ride in 2015.
I'm sure that when/if he is our nominee, I will reconsider voting for him rather than ANY D. But at the moment the thought of voting for Trump for anything but Class Clown is utterly nauseating.
I will add that I once respected him and would've crawled over broken glass to vote for him, and had the best time in years at one of his rallies. But the Kayleigh bashing was the last straw, with many more "last straws" to come, I'm afraid.
ditto
Trump gained significant momentum in Feb & March with the scuttlebutt that he could be indicted. Much of his increased polling came at DeSantis’s expense.
In early/mid March, when Trump announced that “he would be arrested in the next couple of days”, he amped his own rhetoric up significantly, attacked DeSantis as hard as he was attacking Braggs, and recorded significant fund-raising gains.
Trump is quite adept at playing the victim, and Braggs’ outrageous behavior benefitted him greatly.
Trump Dec 2, 2022. 50%
Trump today: 56%, his peak between the two is 61%
There is no math where the original claim of Trump gaining 20 or 30 points because of the Bragg indictment holds water.
It certainly gave him a lot of press, and energized even further a base that largely supports him... and I am not going to say he saw no gains from it, but the claim of 20-30 point gains because of it is just flat out wrong and disingenuous.
Trump’s entire deviation is 15 points with a low back 1/2/2023 of 45 points and a high on 5/14 of 61.
That’s the full deviation of the polling from 12/2/2022 to today.
Desantis has a range of 17 points, high of 34 back on 12/21/2023 and a low of 17 on 5/13.
There is no doubt Desantis has lost supporters to Trump over that time, and to date Desantis has not shown anything that should give anyone reason to believe he will get out of the 30s. In fact, the more he’s been seen, the general trending has been down, and no it hasn’t all been because of sympathy support for Trump over the indictment.
That certainly gave Trump a ton of press, and may have helped move the needle some, but it didn’t radically change the race... If anything the thing that has most radically changed the race IMHO, is folks have gotten a better view of Desantis... now he’s out there, and what they are seeing isn’t what they thought he was.
I hate to break it to the Desantis folks, but his wife is a FAR more dynamic speaker than he is... There is no way head to head, Desantis is going to tread water against Trump. He just doesn’t have the presence, and offers pretty much, in his speeches, the same policy points and arguments Trump does.. so why would anyone who supports Trump, change their mind and settle for Desantis?
The one argument Desantis had, was “I can beat Biden”...but latest polls actually are showing Trump beating Binden as well, so that argument, which was the one “distinguishing” characteristic, that Desantis had... I can beat Biden, Trump can’t... is now in tatters... so Desantis on policy is largely a mimeograph of Trump... So why would a Trump supporter, abandon their candidate for a lesser copy?
I expect when the dust settles Trump will have rung up 60% or more of all the primary votes, if not more, and will handily win the nomination.
DeSantis might get a bump after the imminent indictments.
With Trump polling long and strong above 50%, the only reason I can conclude DeSantis entered the race is that he (and the establishment) expect Trump to be in jail or hopelessly mired in court proceedings by New Years.
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Completely explains the abject hysteria by the deep state. They are terrified. And what they are willing to do to stop Trump should terrify everyone.
Trump gained 20-30 “sympathy points” after Alvin Bragg’s antics. Let’s talk once that wears off, especially with Trump’s corrosive personality.
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I disagree. if your theory was correct, it should have happened weeks ago.
the 34-point lead is slightly less than Trump’s lead earlier in May when the same pollster showed Trump leading by 43 points
That’s hardly a slight drop, that’s over 20% in just a couple of weeks.
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Yeah, for some people, math is hard. Evidently for those same people, so is honesty..
Look how Trump governed America.
Trump’s last year in office (til Jan 20, 2021) was the worst year for government, if not America, in my lifetime, by far. Only Carter’s last year comes close.
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You are a complete intellectually dishonest, non-serious person. Your posts are a fing joke.
Name a worse year for government incompetence if not abuse of its populace than Trump’s last year.
BLM burning cities, lies about covid, lies about vaccines, government shutdowns of businesses and schools, stiffing landlords of their rent, phony PPP loans, a rigged Presidential election, and a pathetic culmination of a pointless riot at the capitol that we’re still paying for. What else even comes close?
This poll means squat. No really, why even talk about it?
at this point in the election cycle polls are completely meaningless.
The nomination will be determined by an event that is yet to happpen
Because there is no lesson to be learned from history/s
Trump is Trump, name calling and blunt abrasive truth telling has been part of his persona since Day 1.
Trump received a minimum of 10M more votes in 2020 than in 2016.
PS It is only the never Trump boosters that ignore the 99 min on policy to focus on the 2 min of his comments on other candidates.
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Bing freaking O. The never Trumpers run on pure emotion. Just like the left does....hmmmm...wait a minute.............
A lot of folks don’t care at this point. They just want to flip the bird at the swamp.
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You are 100% correct. It’s very apparent others are so soft that hardball scares them. ‘Make the bad orange man go away!”
Name a worse year for government incompetence if not abuse of its populace than Trump’s last year.
BLM burning cities, lies about covid, lies about vaccines, government shutdowns of businesses and schools, stiffing landlords of their rent, phony PPP loans, a rigged Presidential election, and a pathetic culmination of a pointless riot at the capitol that we’re still paying for. What else even comes close?
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Lets add intellectual dishonesty to the list.
You can’t be SO stupid that you attribute fault to Trump for a Mayor or Gov of a state allowing BLM to burn it all down can you?
Damn dude...can you be?
at this point in the election cycle polls are completely meaningless.
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True dat...evidently some people have already forgotten the lessons of Rush...guessing I could point out those here who never listened to him to begin with.
Yes, they are completely worthless, which is why candidates and parties pay large sums of money for them.
I agree that they don’t tell you what is going to happen when the votes start in 9 months from now in the primary.. but they absolute provide valuable information.
If you are a candidate and your trending down, that’s not a good thing, you better adjust, or 9 months from now, you will be losing.
At this point, Desantis is not only TRENDING the wrong way, overall, but his one big “selling” point, of he can beat Biden, but Trump can’t is actually counter to the polling.
Current polling is showing Desantis losing against Biden, not only in latest polling but also in the general trend.
When that’s really the only distinguishing item you have to offer, that’s a horrible place to be.
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