How many times are you gonna get played by Trump and gop on this? He said it for years while president and didn't do anything about it except tweet. It was clockwork, before 2018 and 2020 he would bring it up, and nothing happened.
Posted on 05/30/2023 10:56:48 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
The policy proposal, contained in one of his Agenda 47 videos his campaign released, was obtained exclusively by Breitbart News ahead of its public release.
“As part of my plan to secure the border, on day one of my new term in office I will sign an executive order making clear to federal agencies that under the correct interpretation of the law going forward the future children of illegal aliens will not receive automatic U.S. citizenship,” Trump says in the slightly more than three-minute-long video.
Trump argues that birthright citizenship for children of illegal aliens serves as a “magnet” and an “incentive” for future prospective migrants to attempt to enter the country illegally.
“Joe Biden has launched an illegal foreign invasion of our country allowing a record number of illegal aliens to storm across our borders,” Trump says in the video. “From all over the world, they came. Under Biden’s current policies, even though these millions of illegal border crossers have entered the country unlawfully, all of their future children will become automatic U.S. citizens. Can you imagine? They’ll be eligible for welfare, taxpayer-funded healthcare, the right to vote, chain migration, and countless other government benefits, many of which will also profit the illegal alien parents. This policy is a reward for breaking the laws of the United States and is obviously a magnet helping draw the flood of illegals across our borders. They come by the millions and millions and millions.”
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This seems like an empty promises. If this can be done via Executive Order then he would have done it last time.
Regardless, I believe that an EO that interprets the 14th Amendment in the way that President Trump wants it interpreted will be put on hold due to a national injunction.
Could be. We’ll see.
I only dislike government reaching into my pocket.
Because that affects my entire lifestyle.
Trump gave me a tax break which was is the only benefit which matters to improve my life.
True, but there’s nothing that says during the executive order that a bill couldn’t be drafted to replace the EO with legislation and a congressional vote.
Jurisdiction in regards to criminal activity is not the same as jurisdiction in regards to automatic birth citizenship.
If I am from Mongolia and travel to Texas to commit a crime, the cops aren’t going to call the Mongolia state police to charge me. They don’t care where I come from, nor my immigration status. They only care that I broke the law in their locality. So are they going to tell me that since I am in their custody (awaiting trial) I can give birth citizenship? It makes no sense and destroys the whole notion of citizenship.
Next, you’ll say that since humans are citizens of the world they are also therefor citizens off the planet earth so can claim to be citizens of ANY country.
Whoever comes out for deporting most of these people gets my vote.
“Jurisdiction in regards to criminal activity is not the same as jurisdiction in regards to automatic birth citizenship.”
Says you. You’ve yet to show anything that says there is some other meaning of “jurisdiction” as it appears in the 14th amendment. Until you can do that, I am going to continue to operate under the assumption that the word has the same meaning it always has elsewhere:
“The power and authority constitutionally conferred upon (or constitutionally recognized as existing in) a court or judge to pronounce the sentence of the law, or to award the remedies provided by law, upon a state of facts, proved or ad- mitted, referred to the tribunal for decision, and authorized by law to be the subject of investigation or action by that tribunal, and in favor of or against persons (or a res) who present themselves, or who are brought, before the court in some manner sanctioned by law as proper and sufficient.”
https://thelawdictionary.org/jurisdiction/
“So are they going to tell me that since I am in their custody (awaiting trial) I can give birth citizenship?”
It’s irrelevant what they may or may not tell you, because the laws of Mongolia are also irrelevant to the laws of the United States.
“Next, you’ll say that since humans are citizens of the world they are also therefor citizens off the planet earth so can claim to be citizens of ANY country.”
No, I’m sorry, but you are the one who has twice brought up the laws of other countries instead of sticking to the topic at hand. Not me.
How many times are you gonna get played by Trump and gop on this? He said it for years while president and didn't do anything about it except tweet. It was clockwork, before 2018 and 2020 he would bring it up, and nothing happened.
You haven’t posted Trump’s latest smear of DeSantis from today. Shall I? FRegards.
“Under the jurisdiction thereof” is the key. Illegals don’t fit that.
So by pledging to do this, he’s basically admitting that birthright citizenship is a thing.
What an idiot.
Dood, under the jurisdiction thereof has nothing at all to do with the individual. It’s mostly a geography matter.
Sometime look up what can be done to you if you leave the country and return . . . and demand a search warrant before Border Control searches your bags.
You’re within the jurisdiction of the US because it is a geography thing. You have not processed into the US so you have no rights.
Jurisdiction:
the official power to make legal decisions and judgments:
the extent of the power to make legal decisions and judgments
a system of law courts; a judicature:
“in some jurisdictions there is a mandatory death sentence for murder”
the territory or sphere of activity over which the legal authority of a court or other institution extends:
It doesn’t matter who the party is. A tourist from England in the US breaking a law falls within the jurisdiction of where it happened.
It doesn’t matter if his tourist visa expired. It doesn’t matter if he lost the visa. It doesn’t even matter if he smuggled in with no visa. He’s within the jurisdiction.
End of discussion
Executive order is meaningless and likely would be blocked by court before the ink dries. If not, it would be reversed as soon as he left office. No, the only way to address this is through legislation, which requires leadship. Sorry, not Trump’s strong suite.
“So by pledging to do this, he’s basically admitting that birthright citizenship is a thing.”
Of course it’s a thing. Why would he announce plans to end a policy that isn’t a thing?
“What an idiot.”
Yep
Illegals aren’t under our jurisdiction thus we deport them.
If a British diplomat has a child while living here, that child is NOT a US citizen.
If an American has a child visiting France they are not French citizens.
...it’ll never even come to that, the Deep State traitors will never allow Trump to win, it’s all moot.
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