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Brutal New AP-NORC Polling Destroys Democrat Narrative on the Debt Ceiling Fight
Red State ^ | 05/20/2023 | Bonchie

Posted on 05/20/2023 8:37:36 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Are Republicans actually about to win a political messaging battle? It’d certainly be shocking given the party’s track record, but that’s the story of a new Associated Press poll that is just brutal for the Democrat narrative on the debt ceiling fight.

According to the results of the AP-NORC poll, a whopping 63 percent of Americans want a debt ceiling deal that includes measures to decrease the federal deficit. That compares to just 19 percent who want a debt ceiling increase to be passed without any conditions.

Twenty-one percent of adults are following the debate over increasing the national debt limit closely and another 38% are following it somewhat closely. Similar numbers feel they understand the debate extremely or very well (20%) or somewhat well (41%).

Nineteen percent of the public think the debt limit should be increased without conditions, while 63% want terms on reducing the federal budget deficit included with any debt limit increase. Democrats are more likely than Republicans to support increasing the debit limit without any condition.

Democrats have been banking on the idea that Americans are going to blame Republicans for a possible default no matter what. That’s exactly what’s happened in the past, especially with government shutdown fights, with the press flip-flopping its position depending on who is in power. If a Republican is president, shutdowns are always the president’s fault. If a Democrat is president, shutdowns are always Congress’ fault.

But for once, it appears most Americans have had enough of being played. Democrats are out there pushing ridiculous ideas like using the 14th Amendment or minting a $1 trillion coin to pay the nation’s debt. But why do that when the vast majority simply want a deal with spending cuts attached? Especially when both of the former moves would likely be found to be illegal.

I have to give House Speaker Kevin McCarthy credit. During the battle over whether he’d assume that role, I wrote several articles saying that he deserves a chance after he made concessions to conservatives on committee assignments and the rules package. So far, he’s absolutely delivered.

Almost no one thought he could unite the Republican caucus to pass a debt ceiling bill. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell was so certain McCarthy would fail that he joined hands with Democrats to pass a lame-duck omnibus bill because he didn’t think the new majority could govern. Boy was he wrong, and someone should probably ask him about that.

Moving back to the White House, Biden has done what he’s done his entire failed career, which is to grossly miscalculate. He thought he could just point fingers and have the press do his bidding, but Americans aren’t buying what he and his party are selling. With the deadline just a few days away, there’s no real time to change public opinion either. Democrats now have a very simple choice to make. Either they drive the nation off a fiscal cliff and take the blame, or they offer some modest concessions and get a deal done. For the first time in a long time, Republicans look to have outmaneuvered their opposition.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: apnorc; budget; debt; debtceiling; democrats; demonicrat; mccarthy; narrative; poll
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To: CatOwner

Yes, and all because of push by likes of Senator Lindsey Graham and others proposed bills to limit abortion. Every election was won by GOP in Kansas EXCEPT the initiative to curb abortions failed by a wide margin.

But will GOP learn? I won’t hold my breath.


21 posted on 05/21/2023 10:58:12 AM PDT by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: Amendment10
Were we not warned?


Though it's source is obscure; it's content is 100% on target:

Two centuries ago, a somewhat obscure Scotsman named Tytler made this profound observation: “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy.”

Daily Oklahoman, December 9, 1951


22 posted on 05/21/2023 2:05:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: entropy12

“If you thing nothing has changed, time to sober up.”

Tell me how ballot harvesting and mail-in voting has improved for the GOP? The same “swing” states that 11th hour turned for Biden in 2020 will do so again. Now it’s time for you to sober up.


23 posted on 05/22/2023 10:52:57 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: BlueStateRightist

Ballot harvesting can be overcome with voters coming back to Trump in droves. I know a few.


24 posted on 05/22/2023 10:54:03 AM PDT by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Catturd ™
@catturd2
Until we stop sending billions to Ukraine ... I don’t want to hear jack **** about the debt ceiling.
8:19 AM · May 22, 2023

mewzilla: Asterisks mine.


25 posted on 05/22/2023 10:55:53 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: mewzilla
Until we stop sending billions to Ukraine ... I don’t want to hear jack **** about the debt ceiling. 8:19 AM · May 22, 2023

Until we close the border and stop spending billions on illegals, drug enforcement, housing and food and medicine and schooling for illegals.... I don’t want to hear jack **** about the debt ceiling.

26 posted on 05/22/2023 10:57:43 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: entropy12

Ballot harvesting, mail-in, absentee, ballot adjudication...

All those are low-hanging fruit and a dandy distraction from the issue not being discussed.

That the only way to steal a landslide is through the use of electronic voting machines.

Even if we solved all those other issues, if those machines are still in use, Deep State will still be able to steal elections.


27 posted on 05/22/2023 10:58:41 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: mewzilla

So what solution do you propose to the problem?


28 posted on 05/22/2023 4:08:05 PM PDT by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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