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Trump Hopes His Own Delusions Will Protect Him From Criminal Charges
Reason ^ | 5.11.2023 3:35 PM | JACOB SULLUM

Posted on 05/13/2023 5:19:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

During his CNN "town hall" last night, Donald Trump claimed he never asked Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to "find" the votes necessary to reverse Joe Biden's 2020 victory in that state. Trump also said he had "the absolute right" to do whatever he wanted with presidential documents when he left the White House in January 2021. Both of those statements are false, and both go to the heart of potential criminal charges against the former president.

In a notorious phone conversation with Raffensperger on January 2, 2021, Trump pressed him to validate one bogus election-fraud claim after another. Among other things, Trump mentioned "300,000 fake ballots" that "were dropped mysteriously into the rolls"; asserted that "dead people voted, and I think the number is close to 5,000"; said election workers counted Biden votes "three times" and took "18,000 ballots" out of "suitcases or trunks"; and cited a "rumor" that "they shredded ballots in Fulton County."

Raffensperger and his office's general counsel, Ryan Germany, patiently refuted these allegations, saying there was no evidence to support them and no reason to believe that Biden had not in fact won Georgia's electoral votes. Trump was unfazed. He insisted that all of the alleged irregularities amounted to "many, many times the 11,779 margin" by which Biden had won. "All I want to do is this," he said. "I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state."

Trump was frustrated by the resistance from Raffensperger and Germany. "Why don't you want to find this, Ryan?" he asked. "What's wrong with you?" Addressing Raffensperger, he asked, "Why wouldn't you want to find the right answer, Brad, instead of keep saying that the numbers are right? 'Cause those numbers are so wrong."

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TOPICS: Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: globalistpropaganda; tds; trump
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Posted to illustrate the abject dishonesty/insanity of the TDS crowd.
1 posted on 05/13/2023 5:19:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Alas, but I have no subscription to cancel.


2 posted on 05/13/2023 5:23:17 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Is this what was once Reason magazine?

If so .... wow .... just wow.

Is there ANY example of a left wing org moving to the right?


3 posted on 05/13/2023 5:26:29 AM PDT by 1of10 (be vigilant , be strong, be safe, be 1 of 10 .)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Where did you find this POS article?


4 posted on 05/13/2023 5:27:34 AM PDT by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: entropy12

This is who we are up against. People with no shame.


5 posted on 05/13/2023 5:28:55 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

He didn’t commit a crime.


6 posted on 05/13/2023 5:35:06 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Trump’s massive popularity has the swamp roiling in whitecaps. We will see attacks from the entire Uniparty. Perhaps Americans will finally see that we need to change career politicians across the spectrum like soiled diapers.


7 posted on 05/13/2023 5:36:48 AM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
He didn’t commit a crime.

Political activity by non-Demonocrats is illegal.

I am not being facetious.

8 posted on 05/13/2023 5:37:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

As a fairly hard libertarian, I don’t understand Reason Magazine being considered the vanguard of the ideology. Most of their takes these days are far more leftist and fascist than libertarian…


9 posted on 05/13/2023 5:38:55 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Grade “AAAAAAA” Bullshit


10 posted on 05/13/2023 5:44:40 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Both of those statements are false, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Not explained...a LIE.


11 posted on 05/13/2023 5:45:37 AM PDT by Candor7 ( ( Ask not for whom THE Trump trolls...He trolls for thee!)<img src=""width=500></img>)
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To: Magnatron

Evidently Reason is controlled opposition.


12 posted on 05/13/2023 5:46:54 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: ComputerGuy

Well then, take out a subscription and then cancel it. ;-)


13 posted on 05/13/2023 5:51:44 AM PDT by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

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14 posted on 05/13/2023 5:57:12 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

REASON has just lost IT’S credibility. May we be delivered from these whose sole objective is to pump into the news their own prejudice bias and ill will.


15 posted on 05/13/2023 6:00:57 AM PDT by rovenstinez ( )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Wednesday evening’s Town Hall *really* triggered these wastes of oxygen.

Good job, Mr. President!


16 posted on 05/13/2023 6:13:33 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: Magnatron

And there it is. A true libertarian is a rare bird.

Most that I have ever talked to are just hard leftists that want to smoke dope.


17 posted on 05/13/2023 6:31:01 AM PDT by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The exonerating sentence is “because those numbers are wrong.” Yet because Trump framed this as “how to put me in the lead,” he doomed any chance of anyone being cooperative.

Typical Trump: he’s entirely correct, but he’s so bloody incompetent, he looks guilty as hell.

What Trump fans don’t realize is that he Democrats are trilled by this: he gives them license to also do things that look guilty as hell, and that are in fact guilty as hell, and any low-information, middle-of-the-road voter will only see Trump as “starting it” and as incompetent as all Hell.

We need someone who is both correct and competent. Trump will tell you that the fact that DeSantis courts “globalists” proves he won’t be correct, despite the fact that Trump didn’t finance his own campaign, but instead relied on funding from a cast of funders as motley as any other. Or that a bunch of German bankers could ruin him at whim, if they decided regulators had their backs.


18 posted on 05/13/2023 6:37:18 AM PDT by dangus ( )
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To: Allegra

NYT had about 5 different stories about it, in 2 different sections. I lost count.


19 posted on 05/13/2023 6:39:03 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: dangus

Trump is “so bloody incompetent” he accomplished orders of magnitude more than any conservative President in our lifetimes.

Anybody ever call you a putz?


20 posted on 05/13/2023 6:41:29 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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