... but this is a tightly regulated NFA device:
Posted on 05/11/2023 9:12:26 AM PDT by rellimpank
As mass shootings become an almost ever-present part of the news cycle, the Supreme Court is expected to issue a ruling on a case any day now which “could legalize assault weapons and high-capacity magazines in all 50 states.”
In the case in question, National Association for Gun Rights v. City of Naperville, a gun shop owner and a gun rights group have claimed that two Illinois statutes “violate the Second Amendment,” and now it’s on the shadow docket for the Supreme Court.
But what exactly is the shadow docket? In a nutshell, the high court takes cases on either the merit or shadow docket, and essentially every case you can name, i.e., Roe v. Wade, Brown v. Board of Education, was on the merit docket. While cases on the merit docket require the Court to consider briefs and hold oral arguments before the justices issue a lengthy opinion, “[c]ases on the on the shadow docket…typically do not receive extensive briefing or a hearing
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Pretty biased story, but hopefully the Supreme Court will right a wrong that state and gun control advocates have been spreading across the country.
Do you have a link to that video?
Bkmk
Trump call gun rights a private last night.
One step at a time, folks.
First we need to take SBRs off the NFA list. What sense is there in banning firearms because they can be aimed with better precision than a handgun (and hence are less likely to injure a bystander) but are less lethal than a “regulation” rifle?
Answer: None. Like most of the NFA, it’s irrational because it’s based on fear of Prohibition Era gangsters, and perpetuated by stereotypical hoplophobes (they never yet met a gun that didn’t scare the poop out of them).
Because of the ATF’s 2016 ruling that a stabilizing brace wasn’t a stock, regardless how you used it, about elventy-six trillion Americans have bought short-barrelled pistol-cartridge carbines and put a stock on them that pretends it’s actually a stabilizing brace. There’s too many fine “large-format” pistols on the market that are just a stock (or brace) away from being an exceptional HD/SD weapon to let them all go to waste. And explosive sales of them (Sig MPX, Stribog, B&T APC9, etc) definitely satisfies the “common use” provision.
Once SBRs are gone, next we repeal the Hughes Amendment. There are about a quarter of a million fully-automatic firearms in civilian American hands. And in all that time (since 1934) there only have been two homicides committed with a lawfully-owned machine gun.
In both instances the perp was a policeman. In one case he used a duty machine gun and in the other it was a personal weapon. So 250,000 weapons, 89 years, and EXACTLY ONE homicide with a lawfully and privately-owned fully-automatic weapon.
After SBRs, Hughes will be within our reach.
Home invasions require substantial firepower to terminate.
... but this is a tightly regulated NFA device:
If you were to pick the one thing that is common to mass shooting it is psychiatric drugs. Prior to those drugs such things and others were rarities.
Other things related to these drugs:
Child suicide
Mothers killing their own children
Epidemic of veteran suicides
The list is endless.
Standard capacity implies there’s a substandard capacity and, to whit, a superstandard capacity. It shouldn’t matter the capacity. Magazines shouldn’t be restricted, period. If you want to lug around or try to aim an AK with a drum mag, have at it.
I expect California will simply ignore the ruling and continue enforcing their ban.
After all, to the Left, this Supreme Court is “illegitimate.”
I expect California will simply ignore the ruling and continue enforcing their ban.
After all, to the Left, this Supreme Court is “illegitimate.”
“[c]ases on the on the shadow docket…typically do not receive extensive briefing or a hearing..”
That’s because the issues in this case have already been litigated. The circuit judges are openly defying SCOTUS and are about to get a judicial smack down.
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So,we can get new select fire weapons without pay paying the $200 tax?😇
After Justice Amy Coney Barrett’s appointment to the court, Republicans now have a supermajority; however, Barrett has expressed concerns over the high court making too many decisions via the shadow docket, so there is some hope that the court could delay making a final decision on the Naperville issues, but that would only be a temporary stay.
Pardon, your bias is showing.
“It is nearly impossible for the average gun owner to obtain a true assault weapon, defined as select fire to full auto.” [JimRed, post 23]
“...Standard capacity for a Browning 1919 is 250.” [sjmjax, post 44]
“From Wiki... The U.S. Army defines assault rifles as “short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges.
This is a concise and cogent definition of an assault rifle. The left hates it because it (correctly) excludes semi-automatic-only rifles such as the M-16” [Seaplaner, post 57] [sic]
“Assault weapon” has no technically rigorous, legally coherent definition, as other forum members have pointed out. No such thing as a “true assault weapon.”
Seaplaner found a Wiki entry that is neither correct nor complete. The Dept of the Army doesn’t define those terms (though it has been executive agent for small arms development & support since about 1903). One infers “M-16” was a typo.
DoD defines “assault rifle” as an individual issue weapon, fed by detachable box magazines, firing from a closed bolt, capable of selective fire, chambering a cartridge of lesser power than the standard-issue rifle cartridge. Only by accident are such arms smaller or lighter than earlier issue rifles.
“M16” is military nomenclature. “AR-15” was commercial nomenclature of the initial developer, ArmaLite. They licensed Colt’s to undertake series production and sold the trademark copyrights also. The first semi-only replicas appeared on the market in 1963, marked “AR-15” and “Model SP-1.”
The 250-round capacity of the M1919 gun applied to fabric belts only. Those were phased out after World War Two, and Browning-type guns were fed exclusively by disintegrating-link belts, which can be of any length.
“Intermediate” can only be defined in relation to the “standard” rifle round at the time of adoption; when Polte designed the 7.92x33, it produced half the energy of the 7.92x57 Mauser that was the standard German rifle round. The 7.62x39 o1943g round made infamous by the AK-47 turned out about half the energy of the 7.62x54R o1891g rifle cartridge. And the 5.56x45 NATO produces about half the energy of the US 30M2 cartridge (commercially known as 30-06; used in the Garand) or 7.62x51 NATO.
The “assault rifle” concept in modern form dates to 1916, when the Imperial Russians adopted the AVF. It chambered the 6.5x50SR Arisaka, the cartridge of Imperial Japan. Smaller and less powerful than 7.62x54R o1891g.
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