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1 posted on 04/16/2023 8:39:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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The USA, particularly its most woke parts, seem to be in a race between implementing marxism, and bankruptcy and collapse.

Which will happen first?

Maybe they will reach the finish line at the same time.


2 posted on 04/16/2023 8:40:26 AM PDT by PGR88
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Guaranteed Pelosi will be exempted


3 posted on 04/16/2023 8:42:23 AM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they wacnto diese for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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Can’t say that I will shed a tear for the big-mouthed Hollywood jerks.


4 posted on 04/16/2023 8:44:33 AM PDT by Irenic
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They already do it for college tuition, at least for 80% of students, so why not electricity prices, then car prices, then grocery prices, then...


5 posted on 04/16/2023 8:44:46 AM PDT by BobL
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What about commercial business accounts? Are they to double next?


7 posted on 04/16/2023 8:45:10 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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So if you make $100K a year, they could charge you $5K a month for the same bill they now charge a few hundred (guessing on that number).


9 posted on 04/16/2023 8:46:51 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Rich or poor, you might as well increase your electrical usage since the amount of power used doesn’t matter on your bill.

Great way to encourage conservation!


10 posted on 04/16/2023 8:47:53 AM PDT by Roadrunner383
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The communist catholic health system I used to work for determines what you pay for health care insurance based on your income.

Screw them. My current company does not.
12 posted on 04/16/2023 8:50:09 AM PDT by farming pharmer (fork you :(){ :|:& };:)
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What about daily electricity use quotas based on your social score?


13 posted on 04/16/2023 8:53:00 AM PDT by Paladin2
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So-—the single “mother” with 9 kids who lives on various welfare programs & with 9 kids USED alot more power than I do-—SHE PAYS ZILCH & I pay more-—to support Her???

Better book your rental truck right now, California is getting emptied.


15 posted on 04/16/2023 8:54:23 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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The part no one is paying attention to:

THE POWER COMPANIES WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR TAX RECORDS!!!!


18 posted on 04/16/2023 8:56:05 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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I’m of the mind that everyone should pay something. Nothing should be free. Everybody should pay federal income tax.
it cost money to get you electricity and is based on your consumption. Not your ability to pay. That should not change.
Y’all vote for idiots that drive up the cost, you should pay for that decision.
I understand the concept that the rich can afford to pay more, but people that pay nothing demanding that “theft” (Tax)should also be examined.


19 posted on 04/16/2023 8:59:51 AM PDT by rellic
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Did everyone miss this?

"flat-rate charge based on income"

Imagine the future if your bill is not based on usage?

I always wanted to have a welding shop, and a grow house, and bitcoin mining and ....

and no more fighting with the wife over the thermostat.

20 posted on 04/16/2023 8:59:53 AM PDT by CA_soon_gone
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The headline is a lie.

It’s a PROPOSAL that will not be approved.


21 posted on 04/16/2023 9:01:43 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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How would they get your data?


22 posted on 04/16/2023 9:02:18 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111
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... because there isn’t enough socialism enough there already.

Grocery stores should be mandated to do that too. Buying a bag of potato chips? “Sorry, we’ll need to see your last three tax returns to determine how much you made, and therefore how much to charge you. It’s the California way! Because social justice!!”


23 posted on 04/16/2023 9:03:26 AM PDT by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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In Finland, speeding fines are indexed to income

Since 1920, Finland has had a day-fine system for certain offences, starting with speeding over 20kph.

The driver is then subjected to a fine that is proportional to what they earn. But how does it work in practice?

To calculate the amount of the fine, the Finnish authorities take into account several criteria, starting with the offender’s net daily salary and the number of dependent children.

Depending on the offence, a scale determines the number of days of fines to be paid.

Sometimes this leads to comical results, as when in 2015 a millionaire had to pay a fine of more than €54,000 for a speeding offence of exceeding the limit by just over 20kph.

The absolute record is held by a motorcyclist, who had to pay €116,000 in 2002 for exceeding the speed limit by 25kph in a city..

Finland has inspired other Scandinavian countries such as Sweden and Norway, in addition to Switzerland and, more recently, Britain.

In all these countries, fines for speeding are now indexed in some way to income, with scales that are specific to each country.

In contrast, the United States uses a flat-fine model.

https://www.carsifu.my/news/in-finland-speeding-fines-are-indexed-to-income


26 posted on 04/16/2023 9:21:23 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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Look for this to be challenged as a violation of the 14th Amendment’s “equal protection” clause.


27 posted on 04/16/2023 9:21:42 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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We sure have a lot of folks here who only read the headline.

Read this - it’s short.

https://www.pgecurrents.com/articles/3700-pg-e-submits-proposal-lower-electric-bills-low-income-customers-provide-bill-transparency-stability-advance-clean-energy-goals

The CPUC has required utilities to make income a component of residential bills.

“Additionally, AB 205 instructs the CPUC to base the residential fixed charge on a customer’s household income level, with lower-income households paying less than higher-income households for grid and other costs. The proposal recommends a qualified, independent state agency or third party be responsible for verifying customers’ total household incomes.”

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220AB205

The utilities recommend using a third party to determine residential customer incomes.


31 posted on 04/16/2023 9:29:03 AM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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You would think if you earn less you would use less power, that’s just my stupid thought


38 posted on 04/16/2023 9:48:18 AM PDT by dila813
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