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The "national divorce" comes to Vermont women's sports
Hotair ^ | 03/15/2023 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 03/15/2023 8:40:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Not too long ago, Marjorie Taylor Greene raised a lot of eyebrows when she began teasing the possibility of a “national divorce.” While nobody wants to see another disastrous civil war (with much better weapons), she posited that the nation is splitting in two along social lines with the two sides embracing ideas and morals that are so far apart that there may not be any compromise left to be found. I’m still not entirely sold on that concept, but one example that might support the phenomenon has popped up in Vermont and it brings us back to the ongoing debate over males who “identify” as females competing in girls’ and women’s sports.

Last month, the girls’ basketball team from Mid Vermont Christian School was scheduled to play a game against Long Trail School. Upon learning that Long Trail was starting a transgender player, MVCS canceled the match and forfeited the game rather than being forced to play against a male. That probably should have been the end of the story, but the leftists who control the public schools couldn’t let it rest there. As our colleague Madeline Leesman reports at Townhall, the Vermont Principals’ Association (VPA) has banned MVCS from all future sporting events because of their supposed intolerance, transphobia, or whatever other woke accusations are in vogue these days.

A private Christian school in Vermont that forfeited a girls’ basketball game against a team with a biological male “transgender” player has been banned from participating in upcoming sporting events.

The Vermont Principals’ Association, which oversees school sporting events, announced on Monday that Mid Vermont Christian School would be ineligible to participate in sporting events and other activities done through the organization.

“The VPA again reiterates its ongoing support of transgender student-athletes as not only a part of building an inclusive community for each student to grow and thrive, but also as a clear expectation by Vermont state law(s) in the Agency of Education Best Practices, and in VPA Policy regarding transgender student athletes,” the announcement said.

The ugliness in this debate is running deeper and deeper as time goes along. The fact that this is a Christian school we’re talking about only adds another layer to a very nasty cake. This dispute probably shouldn’t be handled as a First Amendment issue, though. MVCS never claimed that their religious liberties were being violated by being forced to play against the team with a transgender starter. They simply said they refused to tolerate the unfairness of putting their female players up against a boy with obvious, inherent physical advantages.

Another serious inconsistency with this decision is found in the VPA’s own policies. They cite a rule banning discrimination against anyone based on their supposed “gender identity.” But who was “discriminated” against in this instance? If MVCS had refused to allow the Long Trail team into their gym or tried to ban the individual trans player from taking the court, that would be one thing. But they chose to forfeit the match, take the loss, and hand the win to the team with the trans player. If anything, MVCS discriminated against themselves.

As I suggested above, this kerfuffle looks for all the world like an example of two groups living in one community that is heading for a local version of a national divorce. You have one Christian school where the administrators are fighting for fairness and respect for actual medical science as it was understood all through recorded history. Arrayed against them is a coalition of some of the most woke public school administrators in the country. (And that’s saying a lot these days.) And that coalition is willing to use its administrative muscle to shut an entire school system out of opportunities and community participation all over their bizarre transgender policies.

Where is the middle ground in that battle? This isn’t the same as previous questions about access to bathrooms, locker rooms or showers. In some of those battles, idiotic and expensive (but functional) solutions were found by instituting single-person bathrooms, shower stalls, and all the rest. But in Vermont, this isn’t a question of where students engage in particular activities. It’s a question of who is allowed to participate at all. They are effectively canceling an entire school based on the administration’s refusal to go along with something that is obviously unfair and based on unscientific nonsense.

There doesn’t appear to be a compromise here. There are only battle lines to be drawn. Perhaps the parties should contact a divorce lawyer and just get it over with.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: childabuse; children; education; garbagehumansinnh; lgbt; sports; transagenda; transgender; vermont; womenssports
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1 posted on 03/15/2023 8:40:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I can guarantee you we will either eventually win this argument or womens sports will cease to exist.

It has to be one or the other.


2 posted on 03/15/2023 8:44:16 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: TexasFreeper2009

What is happening defies the very reason there are separate women’s / girls’ sports to begin with.


3 posted on 03/15/2023 8:48:46 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: SeekAndFind

Women have to stand up against this nonsense or it will kill women’s sports. Men are just bystanders. Yes we can speak out, but women need to save women’s sports themselves.


4 posted on 03/15/2023 8:50:48 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk
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To: SeekAndFind
You shouldn't compromise with evil.

You can't compromise with the insane.

If you attempt to compromise with the evil insane, you'll end up becoming one of them.

The only thing to do in these situations is resist with all your might to your dying breath.
5 posted on 03/15/2023 8:54:14 PM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: SeekAndFind

[[Last month, the girls’ basketball team from Mid Vermont Christian School was scheduled to play a game against Long Trail School. Upon learning that Long Trail was starting a transgender player, MVCS canceled the match and forfeited the game rather than being forced to play against a male.]]

May God bless this School and those that took the stand

[[Where is the middle ground in that battle?]]

There is NO middle Ground! Men do NOT belong in women’s sports- even if they are pretending to be female


6 posted on 03/15/2023 9:01:17 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Newbomb Turk

The whole intent of the transgender movement is to dehumanize women and reduce their status to being a baby machine and housewife.

Think Ancient Greece. I think that’s the society the left is trying to create.


7 posted on 03/15/2023 9:08:52 PM PDT by Jonty30 (It is not how many that go into Mexico that counts. It is how many that return from Mexico.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If there’s money or prestige to be made the powers “in charge” of women’s sports will go with the trannies because they are physically superior and gives them a better chance at winning.


8 posted on 03/15/2023 9:12:43 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: SeekAndFind
The Christian school missed an opportunity. Upon learning about the “transgender” player on the opposing girls’ team, they should have shown up with their boys’ basketball team, called it the girls’ team, and dared the organizers and opposing team coaches to explain why they couldn’t play. This “trans” BS is based upon nothing but the imaginations of certain people, so it is impossible to produce a logical argument as to why one boy who calls himself a girl is fine, while an entire team of boys is not. The normal people in society should be pushing these idiots into a logical corner at every opportunity, just as Matt Walsh has done by asking woke morons to define “woman.”

In fact, every normal red-blooded male who is sane and not possessed by the “woke” demon should take every opportunity to declare themselves “women”, without changing anything about their appearance or behavior, and demand the same benefits and deference that is being showered upon the trannies. When the “woke” corporate executive or “diversity” officer tries to reject that declaration, simply demand that they define what makes someone a woman. Then watch them melt down.

They’re getting away with this crap by bluffing the vast majority of the population into submitting to it. If there was significant pushback, there is no way they could defend it.

9 posted on 03/15/2023 9:17:21 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: noiseman

In the novel 1984, the proles greatly outnumbered the party as we vastly outnumber the left, but like the proles, we fail to act with our superior numbers.


10 posted on 03/15/2023 9:36:16 PM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Newbomb Turk

Women won’t do it. They will fear being judged. Sad.


11 posted on 03/16/2023 12:06:18 AM PDT by newzjunkey (We need a better Trump than Trump in 2024)
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No doubt the Rats are willing to violate to the point of violence

The Country has a nasty Rat infestation


12 posted on 03/16/2023 12:30:30 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t call them women’s teams. Call them XX-Chromosome Persons team.

Problem solved. No person with a Y chromosome may play on an XX team.


13 posted on 03/16/2023 1:46:34 AM PDT by Baldwin77 (The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. -Tacitus)
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To: Republican Wildcat
That’s a great point.

On the flip side, it also shows why women’s sports leagues (at least in government-sponsored “public accommodations”) are incompatible with U.S. civil rights law.

Every time I come across one of these threads I ask the same question: How is a gender-segregated public school sports league any different than separate public water fountains for black and white people?

I have yet to get a good answer to this.

14 posted on 03/16/2023 2:52:56 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: Newbomb Turk

And once it kills women’s sports, it will kill men’s sports, too — at least in high schools and colleges. No way in hell would any modern school administration tolerate a scenario where they sponsor sports teams that are 100% male.


15 posted on 03/16/2023 2:56:33 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: noiseman

“The Christian school missed an opportunity. Upon learning about the “transgender” player on the opposing girls’ team, they should have shown up with their boys’ basketball team, called it the girls’ team, and dared the organizers and opposing team coaches to explain why they couldn’t play.”

Good strategy for future engagements. I would also like the other Christian schools in VT to support this school instead of letting them fight this alone. There is strength in numbers.


16 posted on 03/16/2023 3:04:02 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Left will never allow a national divorce. They don’t believe in live and let live. You will be forced to submit. All dissent must be eliminated.


17 posted on 03/16/2023 3:12:53 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: SeekAndFind

IMHO Private schools should not participate in public school leagues. Perhaps even going so far as stressing physical education and training at the individual level to ensure that graduates are physically fit in both strength and endurance.

And that requires a weight training regimen along with calisthenics and field and track, field archery, bowling to name a few.

There are plenty of opportunities these days for children to join leagues after school such as soccer, baseball, softball, lacrosse etc... if they so desire.

My 2cents

I have a number of cousins who really altered their lifestyle through organized football in public schools. They graduated with surgical scars as a result and have been plagued their entire adult life with those injuries.


18 posted on 03/16/2023 3:30:07 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: Right Brother
we fail to act with our superior numbers.

Fail to act? Most of us won't even break free from the companies that are working against us, or cancel our TV subscriptions that puts money in the coffers of our enemies.


19 posted on 03/16/2023 4:10:15 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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To: Republican Wildcat

exactly


20 posted on 03/16/2023 4:37:04 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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