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Desperate Russian Forces Are Sticking 80-Year-Old Naval Guns On 70-Year-Old Armored Tractors
Forbes ^ | Mar 4, 2023 | David Axe

Posted on 03/05/2023 6:45:56 AM PST by Renfrew

The Russian army is welding 80-year-old gun mounts, originally built to arm patrol boats, onto 70-year-old armored tractors—and sending them to Ukraine to get captured by the Ukrainian army.

The up-gunned, tracked MT-LBs are further evidence of the Kremlin’s worsening equipment crisis as it struggles to make good its losses in Ukraine.

Which is why the Kremlin is pulling out of long-term storage hundreds of 50-year-old T-62 tanks, 60-year-old BMP-1 fighting vehicles and 70-year-old BTR-50P armored tractors. These awkwardly up-gunned MT-LBs just further underscore the Russians’ growing desperation.

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To: babble-on

“Forbes isn’t even Forbes. It is a blog site. You could be published in “Forbes” tomorrow, if you pay them some money to post your crapola.”

Thanks, I was wondering how the Neocons got their way on that site.


61 posted on 03/05/2023 8:36:01 AM PST by BobL
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To: stanne

B-52, also called Stratofortress, U.S. long-range heavy bomber, designed by the Boeing Company in 1948, first flown in 1952, and first delivered for military service in 1955.Jan 5, 2023

B-52 | Development, Specifications, & Combat

Historyhttps://www.britannica.com › ... › Mechanical Engineering


62 posted on 03/05/2023 8:47:35 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats Have All ready Won the 2024 Election, Regardless of Whom, Either Party Runs!!!)
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To: MeganC

“The B-52 is way overdue for replacement. For now it’s what we have.”

It’s being re-engined now and will be retired in 2050.


63 posted on 03/05/2023 8:50:12 AM PST by DaxtonBrown
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To: frogjerk
Nothing can be believed from either side.

We’ll might know what happened years after it is over, maybe.

64 posted on 03/05/2023 8:54:45 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats Have All ready Won the 2024 Election, Regardless of Whom, Either Party Runs!!!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Just about any modern weapon can take them out, including AKs with armor piercing - the 20mm guns may or may not work, but the gunner in the turret is a huge target, standing so high.


65 posted on 03/05/2023 8:55:25 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Renfrew

Growing desperation...
Perhaps these guns have a huge inventory of rounds?


66 posted on 03/05/2023 8:58:29 AM PST by NavyShoe
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To: Vermont Lt; Grampa Dave

As GrampaDave said so eloquently

“Nothing can be believed from either side”

Hello! And from the media?


67 posted on 03/05/2023 9:02:06 AM PST by stanne
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To: Renfrew
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/03/bakhmut-strategic-or-not-is-falling.html#more

Bakhmut is of course of strategic value. It is covering the crossing of three major train lines and four major roads (M-03, M-32, T-13-02, T-05-13). As such it is the linchpin of the whole Donbas region. Besides that it also has some valuable mineral mines.

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Russian source report death per week at a lower rate than Ukrainian death per day. The ratio is again about 10 Ukrainians for 1 Russian.

I have said for a while that Bakhmut was in operational encirclement. Russian artillery could reach its last roads in and out. Since three days ago Bakhmut is in tactical encirclement. Russian direct fire, i.e. tank guns and hand held anti-tank missiles, can now cover all of Bakhmut's supply routes. They will shot at any car that attempts to drive there. Its one reason why the reported deaths have harshly increased. Should the Ukraine decide to order its soldiers to stay in Bakhmut the city will be physically encircled. All roads will be blocked not only by fire but by heavily armed Russian checkpoints. The Ukrainian soldiers in Bakhmut, several thousands still seem to be there, will then be left with only two options: surrender or die. ###

https://sonar21.com/the-fall-of-bakhmut-a-prelude-to-the-fall-of-ukraine/

During the last year Ukraine has enlisted hundreds of thousands of new recruits, but these new soldiers are being sent to the front with only minimal training. Ukraine does not have the number of trained, experienced soldiers required to mount a massive counter offensive. The lack of personnel is compounded by the inability of the West to supply ammunition and vehicles in sufficient numbers to sustain intense operations.

According to Andrei Martyanov, who has good sources in Russia, the 300,000 reservists called up last August have not yet been deployed to the front lines. The meaning is simple — Russia enjoys a massive advantage in terms of manpower, tanks, artillery, ammunition, missiles and combat air.

The fall of Bakhmut is a major blow, not just to Ukraine, but to the United States and NATO. This sets the stage for the West doing something desperate while Russia is content to continue to pulverize what is left of the Ukrainian military.

68 posted on 03/05/2023 9:06:18 AM PST by Kazan
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To: mountainlion
Looks like they. are sending old arms to war. We are still using 70 year old B52s and the M16 is is getting close to 6o years old. I guess we have Desperate arms also.

Look at how old the M2 Browning 50 is.....
69 posted on 03/05/2023 9:16:23 AM PST by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (What did Socialists use before candles? Electricity)
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To: Kazan

Russia loses 30,000 troops to get another worthless village

that’s stupid “leadership”


70 posted on 03/05/2023 9:28:53 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: jerod

You have some nerve coming here and throwing Biden’s foreign policy in our faces. Go away and fix your own country.


71 posted on 03/05/2023 9:34:45 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: Aut Pax Aut Bellum
16” shells dated 1939 were used in desert storm. When I was in Viet Nam I at C rations that were as old as I was.
72 posted on 03/05/2023 10:05:27 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well those that did not make it back.)
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To: null and void

This


73 posted on 03/05/2023 10:31:15 AM PST by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: Renfrew

The battery charger next to the track is a nice touch. Maybe it is an EV, a greener fighting vehicle.


74 posted on 03/05/2023 10:53:16 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Sacajaweau
"Mechanical things last...Look at the folks who collect cars...fix them up and show them. Wish I still had the roll down windows on my car...and that little side vent. We didn’t need air conditioning with that little vent."

I had forgotten all about the little side vents on the windows. I remember them on the my parents car. I never got to use them myself because they were gone by the time thst I started to drive.

75 posted on 03/05/2023 11:05:27 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: Renfrew

Meanwhile Russia has put 20X the number of artillery tubes on their slowly advancing line of destruction. And the rail lines are keeping them fed.

Slow, grinding desolation.

20X the tonnage that Ukraine has.


76 posted on 03/05/2023 11:10:42 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: stanne

I wasn’t passing judgement on its veracity. I was passing judgement on the engineering. Ha ha.


77 posted on 03/05/2023 11:19:14 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: MeganC

No it’s not all we have. The B1 and B2 are very useful and useable


78 posted on 03/05/2023 11:27:45 AM PST by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Vermont Lt

Awesome engineering

Propaganda media.


79 posted on 03/05/2023 11:44:36 AM PST by stanne
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To: Renfrew
Citing the age of the naval guns is simply propaganda. There are plenty of weapons more than a century old that would be deadly effective in combat today.

Marlin Model 1894 lever action
Lee-Enfield 1895
Winchester Model 1897 Shotgun
M1903 Springfield
Colt M1911
Mills Bomb (hand grenade) - 1915
Thompson Submachine Gun - 1918
M2 Browning machine gun - 1918 (and still in U.S. military service)

80 posted on 03/05/2023 12:02:48 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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