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Ukraine: Is it almost over?
Pearls and Irritations ^ | 1 Mar 23 | Scott Burchill

Posted on 02/28/2023 5:23:27 PM PST by delta7

DEFENCE AND SECURITY, ECONOMY, MEDIA, POLITICS, WORLD Ukraine: Is it almost over? By Scott Burchill Mar 1, 2023 Joint press conference President Biden and President Volodymyr Zelenskyy December 21, 2022 Despite celebrating 12 months of surviving the Russian onslaught, promises of more money and military equipment (including tanks) from the West, and a chorus of support for the courage and resilience of the people, the war appears almost over for Ukraine.

There are four reasons for thinking this.

First, as the Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal explains,

public rhetoric [about Ukraine’s heroic resistance] masks deepening private doubts among politicians in the U.K., France and Germany that Ukraine will be able to expel the Russians from eastern Ukraine and Crimea, which Russia has controlled since 2014, and a belief that the West can only help sustain the war effort for so long, especially if the conflict settles into a stalemate …

The New York Times has corroborated this judgement, noting that the US Chair of the Joint Chiefs General Mark Milley has argued that “Ukraine was unlikely to make substantially greater battlefield gains and should move to the bargaining table.”

The war is unlikely to end in a decisive victory for either side, however enthusiastic Russophobes in the West are about a total Russian defeat: a cause as cruel for Ukrainians as it is delusional about the respective military strengths of both sides. French President Emmanuel Macron has told President Volodymyr Zelensky to settle in exchange for some future, unspecified security arrangement with NATO.

This will annoy the Americans. One of the gifts from Putin’s criminal invasion was to reinforce Atlanticist solidarity, or to put it more accurately, it tightened Washington’s grip on unauthorised peace ventures coming out of continental Europe. NATO was always designed to prevent moves by France and Germany towards independent European defence and foreign policies, such as the West European Union (WEU): this has been a geo-political priority for Washington since the end of World War Two. According to investigative journalist Sy Hersh, the primary reason Washington blew up the Nordstream 2 pipeline was to prevent closer energy and political ties between Russia and Germany.

Renewed pressure for a ceasefire comes after it was revealed by former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett that he had made significant progress towards a negotiated settlement before his efforts were scuppered by Washington and London, both of whom had very different political objectives to Kiev’s. The West preferred war to a diplomatic settlement until it became clear that Ukraine was running out of soldiers and was unlikely to recover much, if any of its lost territory.

More recently the Chinese have proposed a peace plan which has piqued Zelensky’s interest and garnered Macron’s initial support, much to the concern of Washington which would be embarrassed and opposed to a significant diplomatic success for Beijing. Increasingly and correctly, President Joe Biden is being seen as the major obstacle to the resolution of this conflict.

Secondly, there is growing resistance to the ongoing funding of the war in Germany, France, the UK and even in the US Congress, especially amongst Republicans. After 12 months Wall Street is losing patience and cannot exploit investment opportunities in Ukraine until the fighting stops, and the Europeans have more important spending priorities. Inflation across the world keeps rising. Disruptions to grain exports and other global supply chains, such as fertilisers, are wreaking havoc everywhere.

With no end in sight, or significant Ukrainian victories on the horizon, public (as opposed to government) support in the West will continue to wane as war fatigue sets in. A stalemate on the battlefield now is effectively the same as a Russian victory. Hardheads in the Deep State do not expect Russia to concede any meaningful territorial gains it has made over the last year: for Moscow, a pro-NATO government on its western border is considered an existential threat. Ukraine and Russia share a 1,000km border, so a deal has to be struck. Moscow can also absorb much greater military casualties than Ukraine can, so a war of attrition works in its favour.

Thirdly, there is now a greater understanding in the West that this conflict has become a NATO proxy war with Russia, with Ukrainians bearing most of the human and material costs. Fighting “to the last Ukrainian” (Ambassador Chas Freeman) is seen in the West as a good way of bleeding the Russian military dry. Even Zelensky and the opaque political elite behind him, including corrupt bureaucrats, corporate swindlers and neo-Nazis, understand this is the real reason they have received so much support until now, though as they say, it won’t be sufficient to win the war.

Russia is not as isolated as those in the West like to say, especially in Africa, East Asia, South America and the sub-continent. Almost universally, the Western mainstream media has played cheerleader for Ukraine and declined to provide its audiences with dispassionate analysis, misleading them about public opinion outside leading Western sectors. Rhetoric about fighting for freedom should be dismissed with derision. The contortions that will be needed to explain Ukraine’s impending defeat will be something to behold.

The war has revived atavistic hatreds of Russia in the West and unleashed psychotic obsessions with President Vladimir Putin amongst political, intellectual and media elites. However, economic, diplomatic and sporting sanctions have had little influence over the course Putin has set his country on, and Moscow’s relationship with Beijing has grown closer.

Finally, cynical and confected outrage in the West about Russia’s violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty conveniently ignores its own, more devastating crimes in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria. There is no mention the West’s acceptance of Turkey’s annexation of northern Cyprus and support for Israel’s effective annexation of the West Bank and the Golan Heights, as well as it’s brutal blockade of Gaza. The West is not defending any moral or legal principles in Ukraine. Rather, it is opportunistically exploiting a tragic situation which it helped to provoke for its own interests.

Events do not take place in a timeless vacuum. Historical context is always needed to make sense of them. Anyone who understands how the United States moved NATO relentlessly eastward towards the Russian border after the collapse of the USSR, despite assurances to the contrary, will not be surprised that Moscow responded.

Those who are also aware that Washington has manipulated Ukrainian domestic politics since it promoted regime change in 2014 to antagonise Moscow, will not be surprised that those who claim to defend freedom are being questioned by an increasingly cynical public suspicious of their own governments’ motives. Anti-war rallies have just begun around the world.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
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A realization by the world is finally surfacing- the US has much blood on its hands…the US orchestrated this war with Russia back in 2014. The low information crowd will realize the collective West under senile Joe has hoodwinked its citizens yet again, much like with the Covid vax hoax.

I hope the backlash will be monumental.

1 posted on 02/28/2023 5:23:27 PM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

Good luck to the Polish and Baltics.


2 posted on 02/28/2023 5:25:43 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: delta7

👍👍


3 posted on 02/28/2023 5:25:52 PM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: delta7

“There is no mention the West’s acceptance of Turkey’s annexation of northern Cyprus and support for Israel’s effective annexation of the West Bank and the Golan Heights, as well as it’s brutal blockade of Gaza.” Whoa! Hold on there; nothing but obfuscation.


4 posted on 02/28/2023 5:29:26 PM PST by Fungi
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To: delta7

Ukraine’s best bet is an offensive where they’ll seize Crimea. Otherwise, a cease fire. Similar to Winter War the Soviets fought with Finland.


5 posted on 02/28/2023 5:29:30 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: delta7

“ More recently the Chinese have proposed a peace plan which has piqued Zelensky’s interest …”

Did they offer him more money than Putin and Biden pay him?


6 posted on 02/28/2023 5:29:36 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: delta7

I don’t think so. Read yesterday that one of Jo Jo’s idiots took a huge wad of money over there to Zelenskyyyy.


7 posted on 02/28/2023 5:30:17 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (America! Where getting elected is the same thing as hitting the lottery.)
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To: delta7

An old meme goes something like this:

The French will die for love.
The British will die for honor.
The Americans will die for freedom.
The Russians will die.

It means that Russians will fight to the last Russian life.

Georges Soros has vowed to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian life, but there are a lot more Russians than Ukrainians.


8 posted on 02/28/2023 5:30:43 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: delta7; tlozo; bert; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Williams; PIF; SpeedyInTexas

Neocons had best embrace the suck and learn how to defend their stupidity.


9 posted on 02/28/2023 5:31:16 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (The Ukraine is dead, the head just doesn't know it yet. 🇺🇦 🤺 🇷🇺. 🇺🇦💀.)
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To: delta7

One thing for sure, you can’t trust Zelensky. If the US pulls the plug on this corrupt gig of his, he’s capable of anything. Did you see these remarks of his?

“The US will have to send their sons and daughters exactly the same way as we are sending our sons and daughters to war... because it’s NATO that we’re talking about, and they will be dying.”

What the hell kind of a threat is that?


10 posted on 02/28/2023 5:31:41 PM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: delta7

‘the US orchestrated this war with Russia back in 2014”

I wouldcrrect, the deep state u.s.a. i.e. Dems and neocons.


11 posted on 02/28/2023 5:33:53 PM PST by Phoenix8
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To: delta7

Well if it ends it’s a win for America and a loss for Joe Biden. I wonder how the media will spin this?


12 posted on 02/28/2023 5:38:05 PM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: hardspunned

Our Zeepers won’t go themselves but I suppose they’ll send their kids 👍🐷


13 posted on 02/28/2023 5:38:07 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: Phoenix8

This is Obama’s war, it always has been.


14 posted on 02/28/2023 5:39:07 PM PST by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Can you point to a time when anyone has ever “seized” Crimea from the Russians? It took the original nazi Army of around 200k men, complete with hundreds of warplanes and the largest land artillery ever an entire 10 months to just take Sevastopol.

And then there is the Crimean War. Light Brigade and all that. Basically a bloody disaster fought to a standstill after 2 and a half years.

And that was before tactical nukes. Ukraine doesn’t have the ability that I can see.


15 posted on 02/28/2023 5:46:55 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: delta7

Wow. Came here to say almost this exact same thing. The similarities of the Ukraine propaganda to the Covid vax hoax is astonishing. Lie after lie until the dam breaks and the truth cannot help but escape.

The Covid vax will continue to take lives for probably another generation. Yet we were thoroughly assured, in no uncertain terms, that the vax was safe, and the government illegally and unconstitutionally attempted to inject everyone even against their will.

Now, if it is factual that Milley said that, “Ukraine was unlikely to make substantially greater battlefield gains and should move to the bargaining table,” then this is equally astonishing because it strongly implies the US population, and the world, has been significantly mislead for a long period of time. This gloomy forecast by Milley did just come into view in the past week or so. These military “experts” certainly knew the dire circumstances billions and billions of dollars ago, you know back in the day when they assured us Putin was deranged and on his deathbed.

How very sad our government is so completely corrupt that they deliberately and knowing lie to the American public. And they continue to gaslight everyone when many people can seen the evil they continue to push.


16 posted on 02/28/2023 5:48:19 PM PST by Obadiah
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To: delta7

delta 7
That article is spectacular in summarizing the situation.
As bad as Putin is, he is not as despicable as you-know-who (initials JRB, as well as FJB).
After the accumulated lies and manipulations of Covid and the Clotshot, ad nauseam any thinking person should have been able to see that “I stand with Ukraine” was trite, pathetic and devoid of legitimacy.
If the media and the DeepState are saying “Russia is bad”, well that is true. But when they (media, politicians and celebrities) say, “therefore, USA needs to send $100 billion$$+++ to Ukes so they can defeat Russia” it is obvious that the only card they hold is emotion. And emotion is not a winning card.
Now, about that Southern border ...


17 posted on 02/28/2023 5:49:38 PM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: hardspunned

I’d be expecting a Uke dirty bomb or chemical attack against their own, that they and DC can blame on Russia. Right Sector/Svoboda types shot Maidan protesters to get the coup rolling.

Z already shot a missile into Poland and pretended it was Russian. His SBU guys did the Bucha massacre and tried to pass it off. And we did Nordstream and pretended Russia did it.


18 posted on 02/28/2023 5:52:01 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Phoenix8

🔝


19 posted on 02/28/2023 5:52:34 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: delta7

It ain’t over till quid pro joe & yellen quit sending the ukes money


20 posted on 02/28/2023 5:54:23 PM PST by thinden (buckle up ....)
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