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Cincinnati stops using Ohio River water 'out of an abundance of caution' following East Palestine train disaster
The Week via Yahoo News ^ | Rafi Schwartz

Posted on 02/18/2023 6:20:38 AM PST by NautiNurse

The city of Cincinnati on Friday announced it would be temporarily shutting off all intake from the Ohio River, as the region continues to grapple with the ongoing fallout from the Feb. 3 derailment of a shipping train carrying toxic chemicals near the town of East Palestine, Ohio. Citing an "abundance of caution," Cincinnati officials confirmed in a release they would be tapping the city's water reserves until such time as the City of Cincinnati and Greater Cincinnati Water Works determine it is safe to resume using water from the Ohio River.

Per the city's press release, municipal waterworks analysts have already conducted tests on 130 samples of Ohio River water at the Cincinnati intake site, finding "no detectable levels of the chemicals" from the train derailment to date. Nevertheless, the city will apply "additional optimized treatment [to Ohio River water] once the intakes are reopened, even if no chemicals are detected."

Despite these assurances from DeWine and others, some are still skeptical that the ecological impact of the derailment and chemical spill is indeed finished. On Thursday, newly-elected Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance (R) posted a video of himself at an East Palestine creek, pointing out "dead worms and dead fish all throughout this water" as he used a stick to show purported chemicals on the surface of the water.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: cincinnati; dioxin; disaster; eastpalestine; ohio; pcbs; toxic; train; water
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To: NautiNurse

I guess Connie Smith was right all along...Heaven awaits in Cincinnati, OhiO


21 posted on 02/18/2023 7:02:22 AM PST by Rural_Michigan
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To: philman_36

Nice find! The guide also emphasizes communication. Another case of planning versus execution failure.


22 posted on 02/18/2023 7:07:54 AM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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To: NautiNurse

There must be thousands of private labs with no vested interest that can test this water. Surely all the lawyers descending have done this. At what point do people take whose word?


23 posted on 02/18/2023 7:11:15 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: mewzilla

Western NY State can rest easy. SW of Palestine watershed, not so much.


24 posted on 02/18/2023 7:13:05 AM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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To: gloryblaze

Effective communication of test methodology and results is a good start. For example, was testing performed from surface water and deeper, down to the bottoms of the waterbeds? What testing has been done on soil and surrounding agriculture?


25 posted on 02/18/2023 7:19:49 AM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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To: bigdaddy45; bert

Fully agree. The volume in the Ohio is enormous. This is nothing but grandstanding by city officials, feeding the hysteria among people who fear what they don’t understand.

It’s also yet another sign of how much damage was done to public trust in science and government by the Covid scam.


26 posted on 02/18/2023 7:24:34 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: xzins

How could DeWine allow for the “controlled burn” of the chemicals lying on the ground? Did no one tell him that burning vinyl chloride (or whatever the correct name is for that toxic chemical) could produce fosgene (a poison gas made famous during the WWI trench war)? When Biden later said the E Palestine derailment was not the type of disaster qualifiying for FEMA assistance, did the Governor object? Will he objec now that one of his largest cities is restricting the use of water from the Ohio River?


27 posted on 02/18/2023 7:24:35 AM PST by JGPhila
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To: NautiNurse

Safe and Effective


28 posted on 02/18/2023 7:30:41 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: NautiNurse

You can’t say anything bad (ie true) about the fairy boy.


29 posted on 02/18/2023 7:38:32 AM PST by Machavelli (True God)
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To: NautiNurse

Well, the municipal water is the first issue, and the subject here. And it has been tested exhaustively, with the results reported.

People are free to test any water at any depth they want on their properties to complement government tests.


30 posted on 02/18/2023 7:39:46 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: NautiNurse

It is incredible to me that one word continues to be omitted from all reports (save for fringe sites like those of Mike Adams):

Dioxin.

The gaslighting has even evaded attention here at FR, despite the fact that it is on par with the virus/jabs gaslighting.

SMH.


31 posted on 02/18/2023 7:41:50 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: ConservativeInPA
The source of federal incompetence in this case is Biden and the method he used to appoint the heads FEMA, the EPA and DOT. The heads of these government cesspools were chosen because they are female, black, and homosexual respectively. They have no other qualifications.

The unspoken expectation is that the straight white men within these organizations will carry on competently, in between attending diversity seminars that tell them they're evil racists.

But this is happens when too many competent straight white men have had enough Maoist "self-criticism seminars" and quit.

32 posted on 02/18/2023 7:45:35 AM PST by Angelino97
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To: gloryblaze
Well, the municipal water is the first issue, and the subject here. And it has been tested exhaustively, with the results reported.

Over what period of time was the water tested exhaustively? I've read that contaminants from the train derailment would be anticipated to reach Cincinnati this weekend. I'm not being an alarmist, but a skeptic toward exhaustive testing before arrival. We could call it the pre-test baseline phase up to now.

33 posted on 02/18/2023 7:57:20 AM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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To: JGPhila

All of these “follow the science” rats from covid days don’t have a clue about science. If JD Vance can find dead fish in a creek in the winter on just a spur of the minute stroll, then their “testers” were politically motivated.


34 posted on 02/18/2023 8:04:06 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: JGPhila; P-Marlowe

I live just north of the Ohio and about an hour east of Cincinnati which announced it was not using the river water for a while.

Fortunately, our water comes from a tributary feeding into the Ohio. I think the Scioto River would be an major waterway aquifer break preventing any aquifer flow into our area.


35 posted on 02/18/2023 8:08:21 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: JGPhila; P-Marlowe

I’m surprised Wikipedia hasn’t censored this by now:

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Environment pollution
According to the EPA, “vinyl chloride emissions from polyvinyl chloride (PVC), ethylene dichloride (EDC), and vinyl chloride monomer (VCM) plants cause or contribute to air pollution that may reasonably be anticipated to result in an increase in mortality or an increase in serious irreversible, or incapacitating reversible illness. Vinyl chloride is a known human carcinogen that causes a rare cancer of the liver.”[34] EPA’s 2001 updated Toxicological Profile and Summary Health Assessment for VCM in its Integrated Risk Information System (IRIS) database lowers EPA’s previous risk factor estimate by a factor of 20 and concludes that “because of the consistent evidence for liver cancer in all the studies...and the weaker association for other sites, it is concluded that the liver is the most sensitive site, and protection against liver cancer will protect against possible cancer induction in other tissues.”[35]
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36 posted on 02/18/2023 8:16:06 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: NautiNurse

The testing is ongoing. Anyone can follow the topic with different sourcing.

Just one of many I’ve read.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-Ohio-contamination-map-411989877238


37 posted on 02/18/2023 8:16:09 AM PST by gloryblaze
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But, buttjuice said it was ok and buttjuice is not particularly known to engage in behaviors that present risks to health


38 posted on 02/18/2023 9:03:21 AM PST by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: NautiNurse

Federal incompetence or federal terrorism? Let’s ask Mr. Orwell.


39 posted on 02/18/2023 9:14:02 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: bert; bigdaddy45
Bert, I have no clue what this Rule of 65 thing is. I did a cursory search and just count a bunch of court cases, nothing technical.

Dilution with respect to water as in this case is C1xV1 = C2xV2. Anything different is just some rule of thumb shorthand when the data is limited or guesstimated.

Of course, what do I know. I just had 40yrs experience in industrial water and wastewater treatment project management, design, testing, pilot plant, field & plant operations and R&D among other things.

Cincinnati and any other municipal water systems downstream of the spill should be following the same prudent course of action until sampling and river modeling gets an all clear from the relevant local and state authorities and the EPA. All WILL be involved.

In addition, there should be a ban on fishing until proven safe. Bioaccumulation in sediments, fish, clams and such is a long term concern until proven otherwise by site assessments. This will prove to be a long term issue to fully scope out.

My opinions….

40 posted on 02/18/2023 9:18:14 AM PST by Hootowl99
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