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Social Security’s retirement age is moving to 67. Some experts say that could go even higher
CNBC ^ | 3 April 2022 | Lorie Konish

Posted on 02/07/2023 7:21:17 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Many Americans eagerly look forward to a time when they can stop working and officially set their status to “retired.” But when asked what age they anticipate that could be, there isn’t a consensus. The average age when people say they hope to retire is 62, according to one survey.

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Meanwhile, the House of Representatives last week approved a retirement bill that would push out the age for required minimum distributions on certain savings accounts to 75, up from the current age of 72. That change, if it passes the Senate, would be gradually phased in by 2032.

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Retirement ages were last altered in 1983 under then-President Ronald Reagan. Those changes, which raised the full retirement age to 67 from 65, are still being phased in today. Even just the bump up to age 66 from 65 represented a 5% benefit cut, Elsasser noted.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: age; entitlementspending; goingnowhere; medicare; ponzischeme; retirement; security; social; socialsecurity
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To: plain talk

Thing is, people are not living longer anymore. So that is not a valid excuse for them.


81 posted on 02/08/2023 3:54:40 AM PST by dforest (Joy Behar is a big mouth cow.)
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To: Lockbox

And few women were working.


82 posted on 02/08/2023 3:56:50 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: metmom

We have to keep in mind that there are people getting SS benefits who never paid a flat dime into the system.

Perhaps the crooks in Congress should start there by cutting out those who don’t deserve it.


83 posted on 02/08/2023 3:58:40 AM PST by dforest (Joy Behar is a big mouth cow.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Social Security payments are calculated so that regardless of what age you start receiving social security, everyone’s lifetime payment is the same.


84 posted on 02/08/2023 4:20:26 AM PST by ops33 (SMSgt, USAF, Retired)
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To: ops33

“Social Security payments are calculated so that regardless of what age you start receiving social security, everyone’s lifetime payment is the same.”

That is a calculation based on actuarial tables so it is true for the aggregate.

Of course each individual person has a totally different set of factors to look at...

I waited until seventy to start collecting because:

—I could afford to do it
—I was/am in excellent health
—My parents and grandparents lived a long time so while I could croak tomorrow the more likely outcome is that I will live a long time as well.

Each person has to make their own decision based on their own situation (actual and guessing their future).


85 posted on 02/08/2023 4:32:22 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: ops33

“Social Security payments are calculated so that regardless of what age you start receiving social security, everyone’s lifetime payment is the same.”

That is a calculation based on actuarial tables so it is true for the aggregate.

Of course each individual person has a totally different set of factors to look at...

I waited until seventy to start collecting because:

—I could afford to do it
—I was/am in excellent health
—My parents and grandparents lived a long time so while I could croak tomorrow the more likely outcome is that I will live a long time as well.

Each person has to make their own decision based on their own situation (actual and guessing their future).


86 posted on 02/08/2023 4:32:22 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Republicans do suck badly in this department. Reagan loved illegal aliens with amnesty but screwed Americans with retirement. And he’s considered the best.


87 posted on 02/08/2023 4:34:30 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016 democratic )
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To: Duke of Milan

That’s right… they will start on disability at 40. Actually read an article where people intentionally get diabetes and kidney disease so they can more easily qualify.


88 posted on 02/08/2023 4:57:11 AM PST by momincombatboots (QEphesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: momincombatboots

Disability is a really interesting topic that none of the politicians want to discuss.

It was originally designed for manual labor jobs which required good physical condition.

Then it also covered office jobs where folks were not healthy enough to report to the office every day.

However the world has changed and disability policy has not.

“Disabled” workers can usually work—remotely in office jobs.

The politicians are sticking their heads in the sand and hoping nobody notices.


89 posted on 02/08/2023 5:04:51 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

You can retire at any age—you just need the money to do so. But if you think you can live off of your Social Security monthly check alone, you’re dreaming. It was always “supplemental income”, not designed to provide one with a life of leisure by itself.

For perspective, consider the reason 65 was chosen in the 1930s when Social Security was first established is because at the time the average life expectancy for Americans was 64. Given that it’s now (depending on the sources you read) somewhere between 75-80, that would mean that if the Social Security benefit eligibility age had “kept pace” is would be something in that range.


90 posted on 02/08/2023 5:27:15 AM PST by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: SuperLuminal

That will be the day. No, they “need” that money for fat federal pensions and the welfare bums.


91 posted on 02/08/2023 5:33:39 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: cgbg
Yep. This is why assets have run up so much in value. This is why a lot of people have gone into crypto. No, its not nothing. Bitcoin for example cannot be inflated unlike the dollar.

The one thing propping up the dollar right now is that so many other currencies (the Yen, the Euro, etc) are in even worse shape. That's not reassuring.

92 posted on 02/08/2023 5:34:53 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: Nateman
The Social Security as "Ponzi scheme" is utter nonsense. Program has been in place since 1935. Almost 100 years at this point. It's a fairly stable system that does need periodic adjustment as people live much longer.

I'm just now getting to the age where I can claim Social Security but I'm going to hold off until at least my FRA of age 67. I also told my wife, who is 62, not to claim it early. Right now we don't need the money because I'm working and I make so much money already. I'd rather take it when I actually stop working so it can supplement what is in my IRA and 401k's.

Now there is a lot to criticize about our Social Security system to be sure, but it does not even begin to meet the definition of "Ponzi scheme."

93 posted on 02/08/2023 5:37:03 AM PST by SamAdams76 (4,857,036 Truth | 87,716,542 Twitter)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The way the article is written implies the current republican congress raised the age and cut SS.

In fact the current congress did just the opposite by raising the age for RMD.


94 posted on 02/08/2023 5:40:26 AM PST by zeebee ( The left thinks they can train smart people to be stupid.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
Imagine if all your SS payroll taxes had been invested in an index fund.

Nothing is stopping people from investing in index funds.

My share of FICA is about 7.65% of my income (employer pays the other 7.65%). I've been putting at least 12% of my income (when you include company match) into my 401k for decades.

So now I have two income streams when I retire. My Social Security and withdrawals from my retirement savings. People need to realize that Social Security alone will not be enough.

95 posted on 02/08/2023 5:41:39 AM PST by SamAdams76 (4,857,036 Truth | 87,716,542 Twitter)
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To: AustinBill

It’s less about life expectancy and more about the ability to work. Many physical ly demanding jobs are pretty much impossible even in your early sixties. And at 70, many people are not mentally capable for a job much more demanding than a Walmart greeter.

Plus, most of the gains in life expectancy come from reductions in infant mortality. Actual human lifespan has barely changed at all. In all likelihood, your person who died at 80 in 1940 would probably live to be 80.5 today, and that extra six months would be enduring the hell of chemotherapy while the medical industry drains his kids’ inheritance.


96 posted on 02/08/2023 5:43:31 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: hinckley buzzard
Most people are highly advantaged if they delay SS retirement benefits till age 70 anyway.

That is not true generally. It takes 12-13 years to make up for the loss of income caused by delaying receiving benefits. And by that time, you're too old to appreciate it. IMHO

97 posted on 02/08/2023 5:43:55 AM PST by zeebee ( The left thinks they can train smart people to be stupid.)
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To: Nateman

It is not a retirement plan but a tax break for old decrepit workers forced to keep slaving until death. Lower it back to 62.


98 posted on 02/08/2023 5:44:27 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SuperLuminal

Wages paid to government workers is a drop in the bucket of annual federal outlays. A rounding error.


99 posted on 02/08/2023 5:45:59 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: bigdaddy45

THey will tax it all away if you work and collect SS.


100 posted on 02/08/2023 5:47:10 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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