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This Time It’s Different - Neither we nor our allies are prepared to fight all-out war with Russia, regionally or globally (Ukes failing, Washington wants direct war)
The American Conservative ^ | 1-26-23

Posted on 01/29/2023 5:53:38 AM PST by BusterDog

Until it decided to confront Moscow with an existential military threat in Ukraine, Washington confined the use of American military power to conflicts that Americans could afford to lose, wars with weak opponents in the developing world from Saigon to Baghdad that did not present an existential threat to U.S. forces or American territory. This time—a proxy war with Russia—is different.

Contrary to early Beltway hopes and expectations, Russia neither collapsed internally nor capitulated to the collective West’s demands for regime change in Moscow. Washington underestimated Russia’s societal cohesion, its latent military potential, and its relative immunity to Western economic sanctions.

As a result, Washington’s proxy war against Russia is failing. U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin was unusually candid about the situation in Ukraine when he told the allies in Germany at Ramstein Air Base on January 20, “We have a window of opportunity here, between now and the spring,” admitting, “That’s not a long time.”

Alexei Arestovich, President Zelensky’s recently fired advisor and unofficial “Spinmeister,” was more direct. He expressed his own doubts that Ukraine can win its war with Russia and he now questions whether Ukraine will even survive the war. Ukrainian losses—at least 150,000 dead including 35,000 missing in action and presumed dead—have fatally weakened Ukrainian forces resulting in a fragile Ukrainian defensive posture that will likely shatter under the crushing weight of attacking Russian forces in the next few weeks.

Ukraine’s materiel losses are equally severe. These include thousands of tanks and armored infantry fighting vehicles, artillery systems, air defense platforms, and weapons of all calibers. These totals include the equivalent of seven years of Javelin missile production.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mentallyilliams; notnatoswar; notourwar; nuclearwar; russia; war; zeepers4ww3
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To: tlozo

It is clear that you don’t understand the politics and graft surrounding military procurement.


61 posted on 01/29/2023 7:28:21 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (Germans are bat-crap crazy for cold showers, high energy bills, and boiled turnips.)
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To: BusterDog

Russia has LIBERATED the Donbas in Eastern Ukraine from eight years of shelling of civilians by the Kiev regime put in power by coup in 2014. Ukraine is not a democracy. It is a corrupt dictatorship in which opposition to its tyranny has been outlawed.

The idea of Donbas being “invaded” and “conquered” territory is nonsense. These are people who consider themselves ethnic Russians by culture and language.

None of the warmongers posting here will acknowledge the people of Donbas WELCOMED becoming part of Russia under its defense umbrella so the Kiev tyrants could be stopped from their barbaric military relentlessly killing ethnic, unarmed Russians in Donbas. The Kiev tyrants kept killing civilians just because of their affinity for Russian culture, religion and language. Who would not want that to stop?

The USA was founded upon the principle of governed people deciding what government they want. These Eastern Ukrainian people WANT to be part of Russia.

This article is correct and dissenters here are completely uninformed.


62 posted on 01/29/2023 7:28:41 AM PST by Gnome1949
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To: fireman15

Listen pal

Just because someone has the sense and morality to want to keep the Russian army out of Central Europe,

does not have anything to do with supporting Biden and transgenders.

But let’s face it you’re too stupid to analyze the world intelligently.

Meanwhile you support a despotic foreign enemy. That’s how thoroughly messed up you are.


63 posted on 01/29/2023 7:29:19 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Gnome1949

Dissenters??

You are a tiny minority of a tiny minority.

Conservatives overwhelming support Ukraine. Americans overwhelmingly support Ukraine.


64 posted on 01/29/2023 7:31:29 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Comment of the Day!!!


65 posted on 01/29/2023 7:33:06 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Except we’re not humbled and humiliated in Europe.

Duh.


66 posted on 01/29/2023 7:33:15 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

What kind of twisted creature are YOU that you align with the left & globalists in this proxy war???


67 posted on 01/29/2023 7:34:00 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: canuck_conservative

Your gaslighting is ineffective here, canuk troll.

This doesn’t concern you.


68 posted on 01/29/2023 7:35:11 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Williams

You comment like a tween girl.


69 posted on 01/29/2023 7:35:28 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (Germans are bat-crap crazy for cold showers, high energy bills, and boiled turnips.)
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To: logi_cal869

Your mistaken premise makes your assumptions totally in valid


70 posted on 01/29/2023 7:36:41 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: BusterDog
LOL, the author is Douglas MacGregor, the idiot who every month since the start of the war issues a statement that this is now the end of the Ukrainian military.
71 posted on 01/29/2023 7:39:40 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: logi_cal869

👊🏽


72 posted on 01/29/2023 7:40:21 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: ansel12

It isn’t Forever War cheerleader like you that I am trying to convince. Nothing can change your tiny minds, it is the fence-sitters tha I am trying to shock into thinking.

Enjoy your war for fun and profit while it lasts. If we lose the Ukraine War it might be time to kick the dogs closer to home. Canadians have a lot of wealth and territory and have been known to collude with the RuZZZZians!


73 posted on 01/29/2023 7:41:57 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (Germans are bat-crap crazy for cold showers, high energy bills, and boiled turnips.)
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To: logi_cal869
What kind of twisted creature are YOU that you align with the left & globalists in this proxy war???

Right, its better to align with Russia, Iran, North Korea, China...

North Korea accuses US of fueling ‘proxy war’ to destroy Russia

74 posted on 01/29/2023 7:42:35 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: bert

Butt-hurt? LOL I didn’t address you.

Go visit your bugger buddy in CA.


75 posted on 01/29/2023 7:44:23 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

Globalist....... you got to say globalist, but as a neo-isolationist you forgot to add neocon to the tirade


76 posted on 01/29/2023 7:45:44 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: BusterDog

You deliberately omitted the author:

Douglas Macgregor


77 posted on 01/29/2023 7:51:09 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: BusterDog

I thought we were just giving Ukraine Javelins?

78 posted on 01/29/2023 7:51:12 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Williams
does not have anything to do with supporting Biden and transgenders.

Sorry Pal, morality has nothing to do with what is currently going on in Ukraine. Don't kid yourself! You are fully supporting Biden and a bunch of "transgenders".

Ukraine evolved into the most corrupt government in Eastern Europe with assistance from Biden and company. This was not done for the good of the American or Ukrainian people. It was done for the benefit of Biden, Soros, and every corrupt leftist involved. Sorry Pal, your bed buddies are Biden, a whole cabal of “transgenders”, “LGBTQ”, AOC, the squad, Lindsay Graham. I thank easily led simpletons such as yourself for every bad thing that has been allowed to happen to our country in the last 50 years. I just pray that you and the moronic leadership we currently have is stymied before they do get us into WWIII for no good reason.

79 posted on 01/29/2023 7:53:59 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: Williams
"So refreshing to wake up to pure Russian propaganda."
I'm waiting until June or later to make up my mind about the Ukraine war (if I live that long).
80 posted on 01/29/2023 8:04:54 AM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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