Posted on 01/26/2023 1:15:13 PM PST by JonPreston
From day one of the war in Ukraine, the most powerful argument against unrestrained western intervention in the conflict has been the danger of catastrophic escalation into an all-out war between Nato and Russia.
So far, western governments have shied away from a truly existential confrontation with Russia. But the threat remains that continuing western military aid to Ukraine will provoke Russian countermeasures that could turn Moscow’s proxy war with Nato into a direct military conflict.
Western hawks have long argued the danger of escalation is illusory. In an op-ed for the New York Times, former British diplomat Nigel Gould-Davies claimed “Putin has no red lines” and that, far from being deterred by fear of escalation, the West should call Putin’s bluff and threaten Russia with nuclear retaliation if he overreacts to western support for Ukraine.
Gould-Davies provides no hard evidence for his insights into Putin’s mind. His argument is pure speculation, and prompts the question: what if Putin won’t back away from a major war with the West? Should Nato be taking even a small risk of igniting a larger conflict that could kill millions?
Putin’s restraint in the face of massive western military aid to Ukraine has been remarkable but his forbearance may not be boundless. If the West goes too far, he may be tempted to risk a degree of escalation himself by, for example, interdicting western supplies before they arrive in Ukraine, or by neutralising the Nato surveillance systems that provide Kyiv with intelligence that enables deadly strikes on Russian targets.
(Excerpt) Read more at irishtimes.com ...
The west is neither fighting on behalf of, nor militarising the nwo/wef.
They are helping Ukraine fight off the NWO represented by Putin’s invading force. Putin and Xi attempt to be the New World order replacing the USA
The whole point is preventing larger scale war.
If the west had armed Czechoslovakia in 1938 when Nazi Germany invaded, then millions of western soldiers would not have died.
Because there is a stalemate on both sides.
Ukrainians need the weapons to push Putin out of their country
Sigh, it is not “the ukraine” but Ukraine.
And Russia invaded Ukraine first in 2014, so not the current Ukrainian government.
They, China & Russia, may have such desires, but the imminent threat to our Constitutional liberties is in fact NWO/WEF... and it is being militarized courtesy of the American taxpayer.
Exactly.
The post is exactly like the pro Hitler propaganda in 1940
Nazi Ukraine?
The left has taught you well?
Show me the quote or forever be called a liar.
I was quoting post 110.
But I will get back to you.
A recent draft entitled, “The US Government’s Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe’s plan to break Russia up into a collection of independent small states.” has explained exactly what the US intends to do with Russia. https://www.unz.com/proberts/the-us-governments-plan-to-partition-russia-into-small-states/
https://www.unz.com/proberts/the-us-governments-plan-to-partition-russia-into-small-states/
https://niccolo.substack.com/p/delusion
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/energy/is-breaking-up-russia-the-only-way-to-end-its-imperialism/2022/06/01/e1962c3e-e170-11ec-ae64-6b23e5155b62_story.html
https://www.eurasiareview.com/03112022-washingtons-plan-to-break-up-russia-oped/
https://mronline.org/2022/06/27/u-s-govt-body-plots-to-break-up-russia-in-name-of-decolonization/
"This is far from the first time that hawks in Washington have fantasized about carving up foreign countries. During the first cold war, the U.S. sponsored secessionist groups inside the Soviet Union. In the 1990s, the U.S.-led NATO military cartel successfully dismantled Yugoslavia. And Washington has long backed separatists in the Chinese regions of Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, and Taiwan.
After the overthrow of the USSR, eoconservative operative and future Vice President Dick Cheney wanted to slice up Russia into several smaller countries. Former U.S. National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski even published an article in elite Foreign Affairs magazine in 1997 proposing to create a “loosely confederated Russia–composed of a European Russia, a Siberian Republic, and a Far Eastern Republic.”
Yet this Congressional hearing was one of the most high-profile and provocative calls for balkanization yet, held in broad daylight.
Titled “Decolonizing Russia: A Moral and Strategic Imperative,” the June 23 briefing was organized by the U.S. Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe (CSCE), known more commonly as the Helsinki Commission.
This commission claims to be “independent,” but it is a U.S. government agency created and overseen by Congress.
The event was introduced by Congressman Steve Cohen, a Democrat from Tennessee who co-chairs the commission." --------------------------------------------------
Well there are your buddies! Enjoy.
Yeah, our pedo moron Biden is ok with the “Kill the Russians!” crowd.
And some of them claim to be er, church goers.
Are you Roman Catholic?
There is a strong predominance of RC in the KIll RUSSIANS!
crowd. It may be back to the anti-Orthodox feelings they professed here years ago.
They have some bizarre thing about Russian Orthodox needing to be converted to RC. One of their popes mentioned it.
Like the Croats did to the Serbs. Good things these folk are just online.
He would have fared well in Hollywood.
But it is no new thing, as the RC have always been rather prone to conversion drives.
"...At the present time the official Vatican and historians of the Roman Catholic Church tend to portray the genocide of Serbs in Croatia during the Second World War only as a result of a tribal strife and extreme nationalism in which the Catholic Church allegedly was not involved.
"Serbian citizens were required to wear armbands bearing the letter “P”, for “Pravoslavac” (meaning “Orthodox”)2. On May 5, 1941, the Ustase Government passed a resolution declaring the Serbian Orthodox Church on the territory of the independent Croatia as “illegal”. On May 9 the Serbian Metropolitan Dositej (Vasic) of Zagreb was arrested. On June 2, by order of the Ustase, all the Serbian Orthodox primary schools and preschools were shut down3. Among those behind these directives were Catholic ideologues, including Archbishop Aloysius (Alojzije) Stepinac of Zagreb."
https://orthochristian.com/114594.html
Note the similarity with Ukraine in declaring Orthodox churches illegal. Also, ha ha, both were nazis! And strongly RC.
It runs in their lines or something....very sad.
Russia lacks the economic and military wherewithal to go to war with Ukraine much less the west.
It is reported that the location of Putin is continuously monitored n real time and should he commit any nuclear or bir or chemical weapon he will be extinguished immediately.
For you to add to the conversation, first you have to understand what’s being said. You don’t.
Furthermore, because Ukraine was not part of NATO, that is why Putin invaded
The USA has not invaded Mexico for nearly 200 years.
Nope. That is not why Putin invaded. I imagine your daily diet of western media say that.
But neither you or them saying it makes it true.
“The USA has not invaded Mexico for nearly 200 years.”
We just put up a bill allowing us to do that, coincidentally..
Yes for drug cartels, they say, but nonetheless a new bill to allow our military to enter Mexico.
Wonder how Mexico feels about that?
it ain’t passed yet.
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