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West risks war with Russia over escalating military aid
Irish Times ^ | 1/25/23 | Geoffrey Roberts

Posted on 01/26/2023 1:15:13 PM PST by JonPreston

From day one of the war in Ukraine, the most powerful argument against unrestrained western intervention in the conflict has been the danger of catastrophic escalation into an all-out war between Nato and Russia.

So far, western governments have shied away from a truly existential confrontation with Russia. But the threat remains that continuing western military aid to Ukraine will provoke Russian countermeasures that could turn Moscow’s proxy war with Nato into a direct military conflict.

Western hawks have long argued the danger of escalation is illusory. In an op-ed for the New York Times, former British diplomat Nigel Gould-Davies claimed “Putin has no red lines” and that, far from being deterred by fear of escalation, the West should call Putin’s bluff and threaten Russia with nuclear retaliation if he overreacts to western support for Ukraine.

Gould-Davies provides no hard evidence for his insights into Putin’s mind. His argument is pure speculation, and prompts the question: what if Putin won’t back away from a major war with the West? Should Nato be taking even a small risk of igniting a larger conflict that could kill millions?

Putin’s restraint in the face of massive western military aid to Ukraine has been remarkable but his forbearance may not be boundless. If the West goes too far, he may be tempted to risk a degree of escalation himself by, for example, interdicting western supplies before they arrive in Ukraine, or by neutralising the Nato surveillance systems that provide Kyiv with intelligence that enables deadly strikes on Russian targets.

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1 posted on 01/26/2023 1:15:13 PM PST by JonPreston
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Russia WILL call the West’s bluff.

The West should not be fighting on behalf of the NWO/WEF. The West should not be militarizing the NWO/WEF.


2 posted on 01/26/2023 1:17:14 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: JonPreston
"Risk" war with Russia?

The whole point is war with Russia.

3 posted on 01/26/2023 1:19:00 PM PST by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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What I am trying to understand is that if Russia is hemorrhaging soldiers an losing ground and subsequently Ukraine is winning why do they now need money, tanks and planes so desperately?


4 posted on 01/26/2023 1:19:35 PM PST by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: Salman

Germany has admitted they are. It will be called soon.


5 posted on 01/26/2023 1:20:03 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: JonPreston

That’s what they want. Sitting Presidents are rarely turned out during world wars.


6 posted on 01/26/2023 1:21:37 PM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: JonPreston

Isn’t this what biden wants ??


7 posted on 01/26/2023 1:21:41 PM PST by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: JonPreston

The West doesn’t seem to GAS about Russian threats. Seriously, they can’t defeat Ukraine yet they think they pose a threat to NATO?

That’s laughable.


8 posted on 01/26/2023 1:23:13 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: frogjerk

Ukraine wouldn’t need these offensive systems if they were winning.


9 posted on 01/26/2023 1:23:23 PM PST by JonPreston
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The West ? It’s mostly a handful of war profiteers and NeoCons in America. They are still mad we didn’t get a war with president Hilary


10 posted on 01/26/2023 1:23:48 PM PST by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: no-to-illegals

“Isn’t this what biden wants ??”

I am not sure biden is competent to know what he wants. It is the ones behind the curtain.


11 posted on 01/26/2023 1:24:22 PM PST by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: JonPreston

Biden has to hide his family’s money laundering scheme from China somehow.


12 posted on 01/26/2023 1:24:35 PM PST by Kaiser8408a (z)
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Well u dont cut off supply win u start winning. If any thing u give more.

This is hard for u to grasp?...


13 posted on 01/26/2023 1:25:46 PM PST by FreshPrince
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To: JonPreston

It would be practically the rest of the world against Russia. I doubt Russia would be stupid enough to step; into that. They can’t beat Ukraine so they are going to wage war against most of the powers in Europe and North America. I don’t think so. They have to wonder if the nuclear weapons they have would even work. They are going to wave nukes because that is the only thing they have to wave. But, I don’t think they would dare. Not even the Russians are that stupid.


14 posted on 01/26/2023 1:26:10 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: MeganC

Russia defeated the UA months ago, but Demented Joe keeps applying cardiac resuscitation to the corpse. Countless of 1000s of brave Ukrainian kids have died because idiots in the West keep cheerleading for a losing cause. The next time you mention Peace will be the first time.


15 posted on 01/26/2023 1:26:41 PM PST by JonPreston
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If Pedo Joe can keep milking this “war” until the next election he’ll win bigly, and by then we’ll be in so deep, viet nam like daily American casualties it’ll takes a miracle to pull US out.


16 posted on 01/26/2023 1:27:03 PM PST by The Louiswu (- .-. ..- -- .--. / ..--- ----- ..--- ....-)
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BFD. Enough of the whining Vlad.

Put up or STFU.

If you're going to follow through with your Nuclear Blackmail threat, then let's get it on. Start the fooking dance already.

17 posted on 01/26/2023 1:27:27 PM PST by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: Pox

What the hell are you even saying?


18 posted on 01/26/2023 1:28:42 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

I hope I’m wrong but I surmise that it’s all a setup to institute WW3 for when things in DC go south for the criminal ruling elite cabal. Right now it’s just being used as a distraction.


19 posted on 01/26/2023 1:28:42 PM PST by drypowder
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The Ukraine is the victim in all this. Led into war by a corrupt regime, invaded by an evil empire, trapped in misery by a corrupt global cabal.


20 posted on 01/26/2023 1:28:49 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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