[BenLurkin]

The Ukraine is the victim in all this. Led into war by a corrupt regime, invaded by an evil empire, trapped in misery by a corrupt global cabal.

[JonPreston]

The Ukraine is the victim in all this

100%

[tlozo]

Ukraine...Led into war by a corrupt regime, invaded by an evil empire

Only the second part is true "invaded by an evil empire"

[ought-six]

“The Ukraine is the victim in all this. Led into war by a corrupt regime, invaded by an evil empire, trapped in misery by a corrupt global cabal.”

I agree with most of what you said; but this, I think, needs some clarification.

Russia first invaded Ukraine in 2014, and almost immediately — and certainly illegally — annexed Crimea. Russia has been stirring up !@#$ in Ukraine — especially eastern Ukraine — ever since. Zelensky didn’t become president of Ukraine until 2019, five years later. How could Zelensky — who wasn’t even in government in 2014 — have “led” anyone into war?

[OKSooner]

The people of Ukraine are the victims, so far.

However many thousand conscripts have been thrown into the grinder so far aren’t exactly small potatoes.

Zelenskyyyy and Zhou and the people who run them are criminals.

[Cronos]

Sigh, it is not “the ukraine” but Ukraine.

And Russia invaded Ukraine first in 2014, so not the current Ukrainian government.