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I suspect all these solar energy farms will do a lot more harm to the environment than would have Trump's border wall. And, they will not produce enough electricity to warrant the costs.
1 posted on 01/21/2023 10:12:28 AM PST by CFW
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Go ahead with it. We have no fight in us. The western lands should be turned over to the states. Too late.


2 posted on 01/21/2023 10:16:02 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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Millions of acres to be stripped bare and shaded with solar panels imported from China, no problem.

It will be an amazing act of government that not a single endangered toad or bush will be found on any of these sites.


3 posted on 01/21/2023 10:16:11 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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Someday people will wonder what made us stupid enough to throw away a perfectly good and reliable energy system.

Mass insanity.


4 posted on 01/21/2023 10:16:40 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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The environuts are going to have a cow over this.

There’s going to be a big backlash.

They only want unicorn fart energy sources.

Actually they don’t want any cheap and plentiful energy regardless of how innocuous because that would make humanity thrive, and the thing they hate most is humans.


8 posted on 01/21/2023 10:24:36 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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I’m trying to figure out “snatched”. If the land is already owned by the US government, then how is allocating its use for solar energy “snatching” it. Usually I would use that for privately owned land taken by the government.


9 posted on 01/21/2023 10:25:13 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Soon the January 6 protesters will be held (without trial or bail) longer than Jefferson Davis was.)
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Where are all the “conservationists” screaming about this?

150 million acres is almost 1,600 SQUARE MILES. That’s a square 40 MILES on a side.

Then you need all the power lines to connect and concentrate the power and move it to transmission lines. Plus thousands of miles of dirt access roads for maintenance.

Of course, you need backup batteries (which don’t exist at this scale) and backup natural gas fired turbines for night and cloudy days.

You get 0.35 or less MW/acre. Ground cover ratios are 40% to 50%. You get 400-500 MW-hours per year per acre.

Those numbers are terrible and it only works with massive subsidies.


11 posted on 01/21/2023 10:29:57 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Once you get people to believe that a plural pronoun is singular, they'll believe anything - nicollo)
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It’s a good thing that the Environmental Impact Assessment will take 7 years to complete before they can apply for the permit to start construction of the Solar farm!...../S/


13 posted on 01/21/2023 10:34:06 AM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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I expect these solar farms will be equipped with Chinese made solar panels.


14 posted on 01/21/2023 10:40:59 AM PST by dblshot
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BLM (Bureau of Land Management)


15 posted on 01/21/2023 10:41:37 AM PST by vmpolesov
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"'It’s Armageddon': Democrat Owned Media Unsurprisingly Silent on Biden Admin Plan to Snatch Public Land For Solar Farms"

there. fixed it.

17 posted on 01/21/2023 10:45:34 AM PST by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (wake me up when somebody tells the truth)
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They have already despoiled hundreds of thousands of acres of rural areas and coastlines with their repulsive, bird-killing wind farms.


18 posted on 01/21/2023 10:46:59 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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Nothing screams environmentalism more than thousands and thousands of acres of man made objects that will be trash in a couple decades...


19 posted on 01/21/2023 11:02:11 AM PST by EEGator
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solar is pointless for a main power source

geothermal is the answer. it’s everywhere. absolutely clean. and the ‘fuel’ is just water being boiled at the bottom of a 6+ mile shaft... the resultant steam comes up other shafts which turns a steam turbine which can produce 1+ gigawatts of power.

extra bonus... we wouldn’t be beholden to china for any of it.


20 posted on 01/21/2023 11:06:15 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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Build nuclear plants! Solar and wind won’t cut it.


22 posted on 01/21/2023 11:16:45 AM PST by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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Enrich Chinaman and Emperor FJB, screw the public, kill the birds! Yeah!


23 posted on 01/21/2023 11:17:48 AM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (The only good commie is one that's dead - Country Joe McDonald)
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No Big Deal!
Our communist masters know that the pathetically servile and indolent Aamerican people will just continue to roll over and spread their collective cheeks...
24 posted on 01/21/2023 11:18:43 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperatly need him)
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Oh yeah. They are a mess on many levels


26 posted on 01/21/2023 11:21:29 AM PST by Nifster (OI see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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100 million acres of solar panels? Will that be visible from space?


29 posted on 01/21/2023 11:28:05 AM PST by Bernard (“the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." JFK 1-20-61)
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I was enthusiastic about a huge solar energy installation done in Spain some years ago. It required huge government funding and subsidies, but the pro arguments assured the world that the subsidies would soon be ended as the plant paid for itself. You probably saw pictures of it in some movies

However, the rosy future didn’t pan out. The investment in a large plat backfired. Subsidies would have continued into the indefinite future. So Spain pulled the plug on what was the first huge solar energy installation.


35 posted on 01/21/2023 11:58:21 AM PST by wildbill (The older I get, the less the term 'life in prison" scares me)
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Public lands for solar farms is no different conceptually than public lands for grazing. So, leasing public lands is not actually snatching them. The reason they are public is because no one actually has a use for them

If you believe in solar then Nevada or Arizona public lands is the place to be


39 posted on 01/21/2023 12:23:53 PM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality daythis piece is )
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