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France strikes: One million protest against Macron's rise in retirement age
BBC ^ | 19 Jan 2023 | Hugh Schofield BBC News, Paris

Posted on 01/20/2023 2:53:27 AM PST by blueplum

More than a million people have joined a day of protests and strikes, according to France's interior ministry, against plans to push back the age of retirement from 62 to 64.

Some 80,000 protesters took to the streets of Paris, with demonstrations in 200 more French cities.

President Emmanuel Macron called the reforms "just and responsible" - but they are facing a make-or-break moment....

The head of the big CGT union, Philippe Martinez, put the total number of protesters at beyond two million...

...The prime minister invoked the principle of "inter-generational solidarity" to justify the decision to make people work longer. Under the French system, very few people have personal pension plans linked to capital investments.

Instead, the pensions of those who are retired are paid from the same common fund into which those in work are contributing every month...

... the ratio between those working and those in retirement is diminishing rapidly.

From four workers per retiree 50 years ago, the ratio has fallen to around 1.7 per retiree today, and will sink further in the years ahead.

Nearly all other European countries have taken steps to raise the official retirement age, with Italy and Germany, for example, on 67 and Spain on 65. In the UK it is currently 66....

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: emmanuelmacron; eu; europeanunion; france; paris; unions

1 posted on 01/20/2023 2:53:27 AM PST by blueplum
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To: blueplum

Just more evidence that Europe is running out of other people’s money.


2 posted on 01/20/2023 3:02:23 AM PST by Jonty30 (THE URGE TO SAVE THE WORLD IS ALMOST ALWAYS AN URGE TO RULE IT)
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To: blueplum

Our scumedia in this country have been given orders not to report what goes on around the world for fear of solidarity. ABC world report is a carefully filtered line of bullsh##


3 posted on 01/20/2023 3:03:34 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: ronnie raygun

Lazy frenchmen demand other people take care of them.


4 posted on 01/20/2023 3:07:27 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: blueplum

What’s the workweek in France? 35 hours. What’s short in hours is long in years.


5 posted on 01/20/2023 3:14:45 AM PST by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️, aka every man)
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To: blueplum

I’m surprised this is even an issue in a European country. They figured out the solution a long time ago. Set the retirement age at 55 and then euthanize people when they start to cost the government too much.


6 posted on 01/20/2023 3:41:27 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: Ezekiel

7 posted on 01/20/2023 5:02:23 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: blueplum

8 posted on 01/20/2023 5:38:02 AM PST by Theoria
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To: blueplum

People can still retire at 62. They just have to pay for it themselves.


9 posted on 01/20/2023 5:43:31 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: blueplum

In the USA they keep raising the retirement age to keep SSN solvent. NOTE: after SSN cashes in the store of government bonds they have bought over the years and hits PAY AS YOU GO, Everyone takes a 20% cut in their SSN check.

That 20% cut was included in the original 1930’s Act and is still law.


10 posted on 01/20/2023 6:27:34 AM PST by MMusson
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To: MMusson

Here is the promise made for Americans back in 1964...Bookmark these links as they are very hard to find on the SS web page!

https://www.ssa.gov/history/ssa/usa1964-2.html

“Self-Supporting”

“The program is designed so that contributions plus interest on the investments of the social security trust funds will be sufficient to meet all of the costs of benefits and administration, now and into the indefinite future—without any subsidy from the general funds of the Government.

Both the Congress and the Executive Branch, regardless of political party in power, have scrupulously provided in advance for full financing of all liberalizations in the program.”

And here is where your money went! Read and Weep!

https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/ProgData/fundFAQ.html#n4


11 posted on 01/20/2023 7:35:40 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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To: Ezekiel

What’s the workweek in France? 35 hours. What’s short in hours is long in years.


A more relevant question would be how many weeks do they work in a year? As I understand it, they get a lot of days off, both for holidays and vacation days. They have a lot of government-guaranteed benefits. All that said, mock the French if you will, but they are not afraid to go on strike if they think they are being messed with by their government.


12 posted on 01/20/2023 8:33:48 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: hanamizu
They have a lot of government-guaranteed benefits.

Which, like Obamacare, is no guarantee, except guaranteed to make things more dysfunctional, convoluted, expensive, and destructive.

The nationality is immaterial. It's the mindset.

When the root operating principle is that the government gives because government rules, soap box --> ballot box --> benefits box --> pine box.

So many fresh flowers!

Old mentalities die hard.

13 posted on 01/20/2023 9:56:09 AM PST by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️, aka every man)
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To: Cronos

I was just referring to the government-devised standard:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/35-hour_workweek

Government anything should be treated like fire.

Controlled, highly supervised burns only. It has no self control.


14 posted on 01/20/2023 10:08:58 AM PST by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️, aka every man)
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