Posted on 01/19/2023 7:31:31 AM PST by Timber Rattler
For years, the United States has insisted that Crimea is still part of Ukraine. Yet the Biden administration has held to a hard line since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, refusing to provide Kyiv with the weapons it needs to target the Crimean Peninsula, which Russia has been using as a base for launching devastating strikes.
Now that line is starting to soften.
After months of discussions with Ukrainian officials, the Biden administration is finally starting to concede that Kyiv may need the power to strike the Russian sanctuary, even if such a move increases the risk of escalation, according to several U.S. officials who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive debate. Crimea, between the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov, is home to tens of thousands of dug-in Russian troops and numerous Russian military bases.
White House officials insist there is no change in position. Crimea, they say, belongs to Ukraine.
“We have said throughout the war that Crimea is Ukraine, and Ukraine has the right to defend themselves and their sovereign territory in their internationally recognized borders,” said Adrienne Watson, a spokeswoman for the National Security Council.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Another child steps out with childish slurs
that’s crap, I’m not cheering for any killing
but you come on here, *claiming* to dislike “warmongers” and “killing Ukrainians” ... yet you cheer on Russia
this whole thing could end tomorrow, all Putin has to do is go back to Russia’s ALREADY-ENORMOUS land mass ... but HE keeps attacking, and you say nothing
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled U.S. Warms to Helping Ukraine Target Crimea, canuck_conservative wrote: They’re determined to create WWIII
oh grow up and stop your childish fearmongering
Ukraine is merely fighting back against invading monsters
there won't be any WWIIIThey are openly provoking Putin with the intention of starting WWIII. It's not fearmongering to say so. Maybe the dispatches you receive detailing what you are to claim fail to mention it, but the international community heard what Putin said about the Crimea, and he has been saying it for many years now.
Ukraine’s Crimea conundrum
https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3718135-ukraines-crimea-conundrum/ by William Courtney and Peter A. Wilson, Opinion Contributors - 11/03/22 4:30 PM ET Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has said an attack on Crimea would bring “Judgment Day.” SNIP Should Ukraine consider input from the West? Putin’s boasts about Russia’s nuclear forces have caused concern. On Oct. 7, President Biden warned that for the first time since the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, there was a “direct threat” of the use of a nuclear weapon. In mid-October, senior Russian military leaders reportedly discussed possible use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No Nukes in Crimea: Not What the Kremlin Wants, but They Might Not Have a Choice
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/6559
As Ukrainian troops advance southwards to Crimea, Putin may soon face stark choice of upping the ante against West or backing down on keeping the peninsula.
by Stefan Korshak | January 9, 2023, 5:19 pm | Comments (0)Control of Ukraine’s Crimean peninsula as a potential nuclear weapons platform is, according to the Kremlin, a critical component of Russian national security strategy, which aims to use the threat of mutually-assured destruction to keep the peace with the West, by deploying nuclear-armed bombers and submarines on NATO’s eastern doorstep.
But now, advancing Ukrainian troops armed with precision-guided weapons, may soon be poised to strike Russian strategic air bases, submarine pens, and an atomic weapon storage site in the Black Sea peninsula - leaving Russian leader Vladimir Putin with the unpleasant choice of nuclear escalation against NATO or backing down on Crimea, Ukrainian officials and security analysts said.
Idiots like you have us closer to hot war, nuclear war and WWIII than we ever were during the Cold War.
You are sick motherfreeper.
If not for tremendous Russian restraint, Ukraine would already be a parking lot and we'd involved in WWIII.
Absolutely. That bridge feeds Crimea and could so easily be taken out. Then the Harpoon anti ship missiles could finish off whatever ships are still there. Then the whole area falls into Ukraine’s lap.
We American don’t want WW3 for a failed, corrupt state. You are okay with it, we get it.
What you said.
I’m thinking that yes, you are probably on the wrong site. You seem to espouse a lot of leftist views and I’ve seen you do leftist things such as making veiled threats, invoking the FBI, to longtime FReepers because they expressed opinions that differed from yours.
What distinguishes today’s Russian aggression from that of the USSR?
—> there won’t be any WWIII
Why would anyone listen to your opinion, since you live under a Marxist government and never criticize it…?
Can you point to an opinion you’ve posted that was correct? Ever?
—> If this turns into WWIII, it will be Putin that creates it, not us.
The west continues to escalate this conflict.
“The west continues to escalate this conflict.”
Which Putin was well aware would happen if he chose to invade. It’s spelled out right there in the Minsk agreements. He made his choice.
now Putin is gonna do another mobilization
so Russia is the one who keeps escalating
I doubt it, Russia will go nuclear before it gives up Crimea. Just like the US would go nuclear before it gave up Texas or Cali. Crimea has been Russia since the time of Catharine the Great. No way Russia gives it up without going "all in" first.
The question is: what distinguishes the US neocon deep state from the USSR?
Let's see....
Promotes globalist, atheist, post-modern ideology
Is anti-Christian
large parts of economy run by the state from washington DC
controls media to suppress dissent
conducts color revolution in small countries around the globe
permanent, life-long party apparatchiks run the place
insiders and cronies get rich
No, I’d prefer that Putin did not start WWIII.
Drivel
Which is why, I guess, that in 1991 Crimea and Sevastopol voted 54% and 57% respectfully for independence from Russia.
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