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U.S. Warms to Helping Ukraine Target Crimea
The New York Times ^ | January 18, 2023 | Helene Cooper, Eric Schmitt and Julian E. Barnes

Posted on 01/19/2023 7:31:31 AM PST by Timber Rattler

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To: canuck_conservative

—>know how some people keep making bad choices? Russia is the “nation version” of that

Now do Canada!! 😂😂😂


61 posted on 01/19/2023 10:19:16 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: AAABEST

You’re off your meds again? Go ask the nurse for your pills and come back when you’re calmer.


62 posted on 01/19/2023 10:29:33 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Timber Rattler

Thanks for the latest CIA propaganda courtesy of NYT MSM.

Crimea. Have you been there? I have been there. Getting Russia out of Crimea will be like getting Mexico out of the Yucatán. Everyone will have to be exterminated.


63 posted on 01/19/2023 10:38:07 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: canuck_conservative

Yes. Because testing the limits of a power armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons is never going to be a ‘bad choice.’ I just love how you neo-cons, paid to post on here, are willing to blow up the world over hatred for a man limited to his four-score and twenty. I also love how every one of you are allied with G. Soros, K Schwab, B. Obama and every other America hater out there. You are fascists and globalists, it’s time to stop pretending like you are a Freeper, you are a tool. If you really want to help Ukraine, please go there and step on a landmine.


64 posted on 01/19/2023 10:43:49 AM PST by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Can you point to an opinion you’ve posted that was correct? Ever?

sure, I said that Putin was a doofus

and that's being proven every day by this unnecessary war that's dragging Russia down


65 posted on 01/19/2023 11:07:57 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: escapefromboston

“What do the people in Crimea want ?”

What you — and many others — fail to grasp is that if the Crimeans wanted to become Russian citizens, all they had to do was cross the border into Russia; they had and have that right. What they DON’T have is the right to take Ukrainian territory with them. And that does not apply just to Crimeans and Ukraine: It applies to anyone anywhere.


66 posted on 01/19/2023 11:14:13 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: PGR88

“Your neocon war-mongering is sick and disgraceful.”

Your hackneyed invective has gone way beyond its “Use By” date.


67 posted on 01/19/2023 11:16:22 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: PGR88

Quit with the hyperbole, son.

What most of us want is just for Russia to withdraw from Ukraine per the national borders of 2013; go back home and call it a day. If Russia simply did that this thing would be over. That’s what we want. But because Russia refuses to do that Ukraine is forced to defend itself, which you apparently think it has no right to do.


68 posted on 01/19/2023 11:21:10 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

“The people of Crimea have hated being a part of Ukraine since 1991. Crimea and Donbass were the two most pro-Russian regions of Ukraine.”

Nothing stopped them from walking across the border to Russia and becoming Russian citizens. But they can’t take parts of Ukraine with them.


69 posted on 01/19/2023 11:23:08 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Kazan

“The people of Crimea, you low IQ baboon, don’t want to go back to being part of Ukraine.”

Nothing was stopping them from walking across the border to Russia and becoming part of Russia. But they have no legal right to take Crimea (Ukrainian territory) with them.


70 posted on 01/19/2023 11:26:14 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Timber Rattler
The GLSDB is an ideal weapon for Ukraine to strike Russian targets in Crimea. Which means, however unstated, the US and Ukraine's allies are all warming up to Ukraine taking back Crimea.
71 posted on 01/19/2023 11:36:45 AM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0)
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To: canuck_conservative

So that’s all you have - your opinion that your opinion is correct??

………………

“Canada isn’t sending their best to Free Republic!”

- Donald Trump


72 posted on 01/19/2023 11:42:44 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: Timber Rattler
Vladimir Putin: "Russia annually produces three times more air defense missiles than the U.S., and overall we manufacture about as many surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) as the rest of the world combined."

Link to full remarks: http://shorturl.at/uwOT4

73 posted on 01/19/2023 11:45:36 AM PST by Kazan
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To: jpsb

“I doubt it, Russia will go nuclear before it gives up Crimea. Just like the US would go nuclear before it gave up Texas or Cali.”

Gave them up to whom?

Russia gave up Crimea in 1954 when the Politburo transferred it from the Russian SSR to the Ukrainian SSR. It has been Ukrainian ever since. When the USSR collapsed in 1991 and its various SSRs went their own respective way, and declared independence (which even Russia recognized), Crimea was in Ukraine.

In order for your analogy to have any credibility, you’d have to say UKRAINE had the right to use nukes, not Russia.

Illustration: Just say Mexico instead of Russia, and the US instead of Ukraine.

In 1848 Mexico legally ceded California to the US and released any claim to Texas. In 1954 Russian SSR ceded Crimea to Ukranian SSR.

Using contemporary applications, Crimea (California) is Ukrainian (U.S.). Thus, Russia (Mexico) invaded Ukraine (US). In which case, the US would fight to expel Mexico.

In either scenario, the original aggressor, or offender, is either Russia or Mexico.

You are falsely equating the illegal annexation of Crimea by Russia in 2014 with the legal ceding of California by Mexico to the US in 1848.


74 posted on 01/19/2023 11:48:17 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: PGR88

You pretty much just described Russia.


75 posted on 01/19/2023 11:50:08 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Timber Rattler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts-BVW6ujT8

INTERVIEW: #Ukraine is throwing in troops to face certain death defending #Bakhmut

"INTERVIEW:#Kyiv installed three defensive lines but the Russians are gradually grinding through them, explains #GonzaloLira. #Soledar, which has fallen, was the penultimate town of the penultimate defence line

76 posted on 01/19/2023 11:50:53 AM PST by Kazan
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To: noiseman

I always laugh at the comments about the evil globalists. Yet, the world’s biggest globalist is Russia’s good friend, China. So, your problem seems to be western globalistm vs eastern globalistm. You identify with the eastern globalists, so THAT globalism is okay.


77 posted on 01/19/2023 11:56:12 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ganeemead

And you call those of us who disagree with you, warmongers.


78 posted on 01/19/2023 11:58:35 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: FlyingEagle

“Getting Russia out of Crimea will be like getting Mexico out of the Yucatán. Everyone will have to be exterminated.”

Your analogy would have some credibility if Mexico had ceded Yucatan to Guatemala, then wanted it back.


79 posted on 01/19/2023 12:03:32 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

You guys just can’t stop with the simplistic over-simplifications, no matter what is said to you.

Putin does not equal Russia

Russia is not the Soviet Union

Deep US involvement in Ukraine does not equal “freedom.”


80 posted on 01/19/2023 12:05:12 PM PST by PGR88
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