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1 posted on 01/16/2023 9:17:15 PM PST by RomanSoldier19
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Considering the retards in the Russian Ministry of Defense have already begun claiming to have destroyed armor that hasn’t even arrived in Ukraine yet, along with wiping out all 4 of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and all of Ukraine’s Death Stars, I suspect their “plan” is a bunch of PR bulls*it.


2 posted on 01/16/2023 9:21:55 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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What will the UK have left?

Its army is already at its smallest in 200 years.


3 posted on 01/16/2023 9:22:11 PM PST by PGR88
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Hundreds? Don’t think so.


7 posted on 01/16/2023 9:31:31 PM PST by Churchillspirit (Pray for President Trump)
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The plan might be for a refitted Russian army to wait until the Ukrainian army attacks—and then counterattack with superior force. “Russian forces may seek to successfully defeat a Ukrainian counteroffensive and deprive Ukraine of the initiative by destroying a significant proportion of mechanized Ukrainian forces,” ISW explained.


9 posted on 01/16/2023 9:36:42 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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Read somewhere, maybe here, that UK had more generals than tanks. Not sure they can spare any tanks.


10 posted on 01/16/2023 9:51:25 PM PST by JerryBlackwell (some animals are more equal than others)
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With complex modern arms from here, from there, and from other places, I fear that Ukraine will soon have the "Pancho Villa problem".

What is that? Villa claimed, and many believed he was right, that if only one kind of rifle had ever been invented he would have won the revolution.

Instead he had to contend with men showing up bearing their own arms -- dozens of different types. Different parts, different ammunition, different repairs required, etc. A logistic nightmare.

Ukraine is getting into the same situation. But with much more complex arms than just rifles. A few tanks from the UK, a few different ones from Poland, and maybe a few more from the US. All requiring different supply trains, different training for the troops, etc. And not all are as capable of fitting into and army of other types of tanks as NATO thinks.

12 posted on 01/16/2023 10:03:54 PM PST by CurlyDave
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Misleading, exaggerating article. Not "enough equipment for a whole brigade"

14 posted on 01/16/2023 10:37:13 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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Good article about how, when Ukraine gets modern tanks, the Russians could plan a tank battle.

The unknowns are many though:
1. On the Ukrainian side, would they actually do this
2. On the Russian side
2.1. how effective would raw conscripts really be? Even in the Soledar instance it was Wagner conscripted prisoners thrown in body waves that pushed forward and that too not by much
2.2. how effective would Russian logistics be? They have been bad throughout this war and there is little to show that they have improved
2.3. Russian military factories have supplied non-electronic weapons, but sporadically and they have had breakdowns due to lack of equipment needed (supplied by Western firms).

So a lot of unknowns.

This isn’t Ukraine “going downhill” - not yet. We need to wait and see how things look by the end of March to make any statement.

One thing this war has shown - right from the outset - is that short and medium term (short = 1 month, medium = 1 to 3 months) predictions on all sides have failed.


17 posted on 01/16/2023 11:35:05 PM PST by Cronos (.)
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A major Russian offensive is unlikely to do any better than it did at the start of the invasion of Ukraine. The Russians may train and equip new formations, but their weapons, tactics, command, and communications will be no better than before. And that spells defeat for Russia.


22 posted on 01/16/2023 11:59:27 PM PST by Rockingham
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Because the Russian military is so clever, despite evidence to the contrary.


32 posted on 01/17/2023 4:30:08 AM PST by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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We are in the opening stages of WW3 and folks are concerned about what sort of tanks and weapons are being sent to the fight, what a hoot.


38 posted on 01/17/2023 5:55:55 AM PST by The Louiswu (- .-. ..- -- .--. / ..--- ----- ..--- ....-)
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Go, Russia. Flatten enmasse.


66 posted on 01/17/2023 8:35:48 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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Go, Russia. Flatten enmasse.


67 posted on 01/17/2023 8:35:50 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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Russia has already lost the majority of it’s armored vehicles.

Some are burned wreckage and others are in service by Ukranian forces


72 posted on 01/18/2023 5:06:46 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality daythis piece is )
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