Posted on 01/14/2023 1:00:01 AM PST by blueplum
The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday agreed to hear an appeal by an evangelical Christian former mail carrier in Pennsylvania who accused the U.S. Postal Service of religious bias after being reprimanded for refusing to deliver packages on Sundays.
The justices took up Gerald Groff's case after lower courts dismissed his claim that the Postal Service violated federal anti-discrimination law by refusing to exempt him from working on Sundays, when he observes the Sabbath...
...Groff sued the Postal Service in 2019. The Philadelphia-based 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals last year threw out the case, finding that exempting Groff caused "undue hardship" because it strained co-workers and disrupted workflow....
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
Envelopes are white. From now on they will only accept non white envelopes.
Obviously the court found that the excuse was like the note mom wrote for you to get out of gym class.
Not a lot of sympathy from me. He knew the terms of employment when he signed on.
Most places would tell you before they hire you that you’re going to have to work Sundays.
He thinks he’s Jewish, like Santos.
Not a lot of sympathy from me. He knew the terms of employment when he signed on.
Unless this agreement existed at the time he was hired and was made known to him, he cannot be presumed to have known the terms of employment that he has refused to adapt to.
Full disclosure: I am a fan of Blue Laws.
A roblem arises, and may have arisen here, when an employer decides to start having people work on Sundays.
One summer I was moonlighting at the Grand Ol’ Opry while working construction on days. I was upfront with them at hiring, and also made clear I wouldn’t working on Sundays as I needed a day off in my week. They hired me—on the first schedule I was put down for a Sunday shift. I quickly objected and explained the situation. I ended up working every Saturday that summer but no Sundays—win-win as far as I’m concerned.
That said, the management there seemed quite reasonable. I wouldn’t expect the same of the postal service, and I don’t think that I would work directly for Amazon if I had any moral employment alternative.
The day of the Sabbath never changed. Sabbath refers to the day of the week, which we call Saturday. Even in Spanish, it’s called Sabado.
Sunday is the prime day that Christians meet, but that is primarily out of observation that Christ rose from the grave on a Sunday.
Sunday didn’t replace Saturday, so it is not the Sabbath.
>>>>The day of the Sabbath never changed. Sabbath refers to the day of the week, which we call Saturday. Even in Spanish, it’s called Sabado.
Sunday is the prime day that Christians meet, but that is primarily out of observation that Christ rose from the grave on a Sunday.
Sunday didn’t replace Saturday, so it is not the Sabbath.>>>
Correct a mundo. Ignorance on the change of the Sabbath is astounding. Rome changed, admits she changed it, celebrates that she changed it. Heck the Bible even prophecied a great apostate power would “attempt” to change it. Daniel 7:15. The good news is around the world people are studying the Bible and finding out the truth. And the Sabbath breach is being repaired as we head into the end. Isaiah talks about the repairer of the breach of the Sabbath. Isaiah 58.
The protestant reformation last until the 2nd coming of Christ culminating with the Sabbath repair. She will be exposed to all and most will go with her too.....it’s their choice. “To the law and to the testimony if they speak not, there is no light in them.” Pretty easy to figure out truth with that formula. Not one jot or tittle is a good formula too. God doesn’t change, the Sabbath was created, blesses, hallowed in Eden. And Jesus said....”for man”.....not for Jew. It’s his signature of his perfect creation. And the end time issue is “worship”......worship the beast or worship the Creator. The Sabbath commemorates creation.
After the Bible, the best book ever written is by the late Dr. Samuele Bachiocchi.....”From Sabbath to Sunday.” He traces the changes of the holy day. His PH’d thesis. It gradually got into the church thanks to Constantine, etc. It’s amazing to read.
Daniel 7:25. Not 7:15
——>After the Bible, the best book ever written is by the late Dr. Samuele Bachiocchi....”From Sabbath to Sunday.”
He was a brilliant biblical scholar. I met him maybe 5 times when he would come down to Florida from Andrews University, giving lectures, seminars, etc... My father knew him and his family in his early years there at Andrews (where I’m from). I still see his daughter in my area from time to time.
What’s most amazing is that his thesis was written at, and published by, the Pontifical Gregorian University (press), where he attended and graduated. He is the first non-Catholic to ever graduate from that university/and first book ever published by a non-Catholic, and he did it as a SDA. God certainly had a plan for him.
I commend both of you for speaking the truth and not being ashamed. I look forward to meeting you in heaven. Happy Sabbath.
“One summer I was moonlighting at the Grand Ol’ Opry while working construction on days. “
Opryland or the Ryman?
He is the first non-Catholic to ever graduate from that university/and first book ever published by a non-Catholic
All that said-—as a Catholic scholar, I found your post informative. As I said up thread, I am a great believer in blue laws, and think that whatever day of rest a person’s religion sets aside, society and employer both should be as accomodating as possible.
Opryland-—as a barback on the paddle wheeler. Not a bad way to spend 25 or so hours a week—and the perqs in terms of free food were among the best I ever had. It was in many ways an idyllic summer.
Why do Christian churches observe the first day (Sunday)? How can we explain the divergence of church practice from the Jewish pattern on which it was built?
The New Testament contains no specific precept changing the day from the seventh to the first day of the week. But we do see the pattern of New Testament worship on the first day of the week (cited below). In a church whose roots, leaders, and most members were Jewish, this change could have occurred only with apostolic authority, which is to say, only in obedience to the Lord himself.
Just as before Christ the Sabbath commemorated the work of God in the first creation and salvation from Egypt, so since Christ the Sabbath commemorates the greater work of God in the new creation, the salvation accomplished by Christ in his death and resurrection. The mighty triumph of Christ’s resurrection marks the beginning of all new things (Ephesians 1:19-2:7; 1 Corinthians 15:20-24; Romans 8:10f., 17-23; Colossians 1:18; 2 Corinthians 5:17; etc.). In the resurrection of Christ, the Father vindicated the Son, publicly approving his life of obedience and his atoning death (Romans 4:25, 1:4); from the risen Christ the Spirit of the new age was poured out (Acts 2:32f., on Pentecost, the first day of the week). The new heavens and earth which are coming have their beginning and consummation in the risen Christ (Eph.1:10, Colossians 1:20).
In this light we can see the significance of the practice of the New Testament church in its meeting on the first day of the week, beginning with the disciples and Jesus (John 20:1,19,26) and continuing on in the life of the church (Acts 2:1, 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2). The first day of the week is observed as the continuing Sabbath because it is, by virtue of the Lord’s rising on that day, “the Lord’s Day.”
While the passages cited, when looked at by themselves, may not seem to provide a solid basis for changing the day, we do not look at them in isolation. We see them in the context of redemptive and historical developments referred to above.
We also see them in the historic context of the birth and earliest development of the church from Pentecost into the post-Apostolic era. The church that emerges to our view from the womb of apostolic nurture was beset with numerous controversies (many of them having to do with the changes from the old covenant order to the new covenant order) and the beginnings of developments which eventually deviated far from biblical doctrine and practice. It is singularly remarkable, therefore, that one dramatic change from the old order to the order observed by the post-apostolic church, the change in the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday, was achieved with apparent unanimity and universal accord and so early in the church’s history that the earliest testimony outside of the Bible itself bears witness to it as an accomplished fact (not as a process still under way).
The historian Phillip Schaff states: “The celebration of the Lord’s Day in memory of the resurrection of Christ dates undoubtedly from the apostolic age. Nothing short of apostolic precedent can account for the universal religious observance in the churches of the second century. There is no dissenting voice. This custom is confirmed by the testimonies of the earliest post-apostolic writers, as Barnabas, Ignatius, and Justin Martyr. It is also confirmed by the younger Pliny. The Didache calls the first day “the Lord’s Day of the Lord.” (The opening paragraph of Sect. 60, “The Lord’s Day” in Vol. II (Ante-Nicene Christianity) of Phillip Schaff’s History of the Christian Church, 1910). This forcefully presents us with a reality that must be explained: the apparently universal and immediate adoption of the first day of the week as the day for Christian worship.
Given the principle of religious conservatism and social inertia, without some compelling impulse in a new direction the natural tendency for the early church would have been to continue Jewish practices (as, for example, in so largely adopting the synagogue model for the structure of local churches, and in Jewish Christian believers, including the apostles—even Paul—continuing to worship in the Temple and observe Mosaic feasts). The first churches were entirely Jewish and organized separately from existing synagogues when driven out.
Pail went to the synagogues on the Sabbath because that’s where he would find people reading from the biblical text. He would use his knowledge of the text to preach Christ.
But.. if we’re being fully honest, the early church met every day, going from house to house.
>>>I commend both of you for speaking the truth and not being ashamed. I look forward to meeting you in heaven. Happy Sabbath.>>>
Sabbath blessings to you! I met Dr. Bacchochi twice too! He came to speak at our church, the Carter Report/Community Adventist in Glendale and then Arcadia CA. (Seen on 3ABN). He was brilliant and his research and he was so humble and kind and gentle. But you never wanted to debate him if you believed the Bible teaches the Sabbath was ever changed to Sunday. His book addressed every single new testament text that mentions the first day of the week and showed it’s an insult to anyone’s intelligence to believe it was changed in the Bible by anyone. As if the Ten Commandments can be changed right?
Even Rome doesn’t buy that. They admit they changed it. Dr. Bacchiochi destroyed everyone he ever debated. He was awesome. God bless you and Happy Sabbath!
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