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How did electric vehicles handle America's Arctic blast?
wnd.com ^ | 1/2/2023 1146 hrs est | Ross Pomeroy

Posted on 01/03/2023 8:11:16 AM PST by rktman

There are now an estimated 1.7 million electric vehicles (EVs) on U.S. roads, compared to roughly 400,000 in spring 2018. That means that a lot more Americans are experiencing the joys and pitfalls of EV ownership, from silent, swift acceleration and emission-free driving on the positive side to slower fueling times and shorter driving ranges on the negative side.

More Americans are also learning that frigid temperatures affect EVs differently than internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles, chiefly by cutting into their driving range to a greater extent. While a typical ICE vehicle might have its range reduced by 15% to 25% in below-freezing temperatures, an EV's range will be slashed 20% to 50% depending upon driving speed, temperature, and interior climate preferences. Combustion reactions occur more inefficiently at colder temperatures, accounting for the range decline in ICE vehicles. But cold slows the physical and chemical reactions in EV batteries to a larger degree, limiting the energy and power the battery can deliver to the motors. Moreover, while ICE vehicles utilize otherwise wasted heat from the engine to warm car interiors in winter, EVs use electric heaters to perform much of the climate control, further draining the already hamstrung battery.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: battery; hmmmm
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FR-EV-ers in 3,.....2,..... I know, certain conditions things are great. From physical experience, working in extreme cold SUX! Anyway, have at it kids. 🤣👍
1 posted on 01/03/2023 8:11:16 AM PST by rktman
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I'm not pro-EV or con-EV, but I do know that many pointed to Tyler Hoover's videos on his F-150 Lightning during towing tests and cold weather runs and pointing out just how much range he lost.

Well, here's an update from Tyler on his F-150 Lightning that might explain part of his issues:

The BATTERY FAILED on my Ford F150 Lightning EV pickup the day after I SOLD IT! Buyer NOT happy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUtnmVBss2I

2 posted on 01/03/2023 8:15:30 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: rktman
My wife and I like our EV and our ICE pickup.

But I wouldn't think about owning an EV up north. Cold weather = having to run the "precondition" to heat the battery = loss of miles/kWh. Less sunlight up north too = less free solar power to power your home and charge the EV.

3 posted on 01/03/2023 8:16:43 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: rktman

Lower temperatures increase conductivity, but slow down chemical reactions in batteries and cause humans to thaw out their frost-bitten toes with excess heater use. Not good for electrics! These, in addition to range, are all problems to be solved - but like most folks, I’m not buying until they are solved.


4 posted on 01/03/2023 8:16:54 AM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: rktman

Well, I know how they handled during California’s 12-day heat wave this past September - I was getting alerts every few hours from the power company specifically NOT to plug in EVs.


5 posted on 01/03/2023 8:20:28 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: Yo-Yo

So it was Ford’s fault due to bad battery. LOL! I guess a V-8 could have failed as well. Or as badly.


6 posted on 01/03/2023 8:21:04 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
Lower temperatures increase conductivity, but slow down chemical reactions in batteries and cause humans to thaw out their frost-bitten toes with excess heater use.

EV manufacturers have moved from basic electric stip heating to freon-based thermal heat pumps to generate cabin (and battery) heating.

Heat pumps use less electricity to create the same amount of heat than electric resistance heating strips. A heat pump is basically an air condidtioner run in reverse.

7 posted on 01/03/2023 8:22:51 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: rktman

Soon the electric vehicle idiots mandators will have to have JACKED battery packs and Glowing Capacitors.

Lightning in a bottle!

Trudeau Government in Canada has mandated that ALL farm equipment be electric powered by 2025, or elese the farmes clinging to deisel will have to pay a punative Carbon Tax which will put those farmers out of production and starve Canadians...But even worse, gthis is an initiative The part of the Great NWO Trudeau reset to starve Canadians to control them.

No wonder Trudeau wants to ban private ownership of semi automatic rifles and hand guns.

Electric vehicles are all a part of the reset plan.

Let the idiots freeze in their Utopian electric Vehicles


8 posted on 01/03/2023 8:23:12 AM PST by Candor7
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They are all ICED over.......................


9 posted on 01/03/2023 8:23:23 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: rktman

Ford has made it’s fair share of Shitty V8’s, but their Ecoboost takes the cake for crap engines.


10 posted on 01/03/2023 8:24:52 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: rktman

My hybrid is parked, mostly due to the minimal clearance underneath that makes it undrivable with any snow on the roads. No problem, I’m just going to drive my H3.


11 posted on 01/03/2023 8:24:58 AM PST by Reno89519 (DeSantis or Anyone But Trump in 2024. Time for Trump to Retire, Spend Time With His Family.)
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Or, maybe it was bad lithium for chi-nuh? Where does ford source it’s batterys? Where does the supplier get their components? Lots of questions. But guess what else. LOTS of “See Uh OH 2” released in the manufacturing process for ALL the parts. Hardly zero emissions.


12 posted on 01/03/2023 8:25:38 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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emission-free driving

Notice the weasel word?

13 posted on 01/03/2023 8:28:17 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! He will win 2024!)
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To: Candor7

Still waiting on the solar powered air craft carriers of the future. And the solar powered F-16s. And M-1 abrams battle tanks and.................. Solar powered super cargo carriers? 😃👍


14 posted on 01/03/2023 8:29:10 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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I live in NYC metro area where there are a lot of Teslas. I am not aware of any major issues in my area during the cold snap. Now granted, the cold snap occurred over the Christmas holiday where most Tesla owners probably stayed home or took their ICE vehicle if they had to go someplace.

If I owned a Tesla, I would not want to take it on long drives in the cold, especially over a major holiday weekend. I'd likely leave it in the garage. I think that's what most people did.

15 posted on 01/03/2023 8:31:37 AM PST by SamAdams76 (4,777,271 | Truth Social | 87,821,414 | Twitter | Trump Followers)
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To: Reno89519

Not sure what you guys got but we had about 11 inches in the North Valleys. Plus a couple more last night. But, I have to admit, I do have an EV snow blower. With 2 sets of batteries. Only good for light dry powder. The wet slushy stuff, not so much. LOL!


16 posted on 01/03/2023 8:31:56 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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Payload, terrain and headwinds also have a much more dramatic affect on EV’s vs ICE vehicles.

Top it off with an excellent chance to get stranded somewhere and charging times that are off the chart vs a simple 10 minute fillup.


17 posted on 01/03/2023 8:34:48 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Candor7

Therein lies the problem...the government forcing electric instead of letting the market decide. And it’s all based on the global warming hoax. They can just go to hell.


18 posted on 01/03/2023 8:35:59 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: BlackbirdSST

Drawing a “black box” around the vehicle...


19 posted on 01/03/2023 8:38:32 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Tell It Right

Similar to us.

We live in N Ga.

Wife’s daily driver is a plug-in hybrid, with a 12 mile commute.

I drive a 2012 F150 Ecoboost that is a great vehicle, despite the disparaging remark on this thread about the Ecoboost engine.

Third car is for fun - my wife’s Porsche - premium unleaded thank you very much.


20 posted on 01/03/2023 8:39:36 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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