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Russia's Lavrov: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals or Our Army Will Decide
Reuters via yahoo ^ | December 26, 2022 | Ronald Popeski and Lidia Kelly

Posted on 12/26/2022 7:43:26 PM PST by RomanSoldier19

Moscow's proposals for settlement in Ukraine are well known to Kyiv and either Ukraine fulfils them for their own good or the Russian army will decide the issue, TASS agency quoted Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov as saying.

"Our proposals for the demilitarization and denazification of the territories controlled by the regime, the elimination of threats to Russia's security emanating from there, including our new lands, are well known to the enemy," the state news agency quoted Lavrov as saying late on Monday.

"The point is simple: Fulfil them for your own good. Otherwise, the issue will be decided by the Russian army."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: accordingtoplan; negotiation; negotiations; norsevatnik; notourwar; putins3daywar; russia; stillnotourwar; swampniks; ukraine; vatniks
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To: Lurker

Well said,
But now Putin and Russia are REALLY serious and Kiev is going down this time, for real, no kidding……/s


141 posted on 12/27/2022 4:39:17 AM PST by blitz128
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To: sumuam

Ukrainians are giving the Russians pay back for the 100,000 they killed in Korea and Nam. Sorry you haven’t joined them, Pootie Tootie Troll.


142 posted on 12/27/2022 4:43:57 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: FreshPrince

Why don’t you let him answer?


143 posted on 12/27/2022 4:45:27 AM PST by sumuam
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To: PIF

“Ukrainians are giving the Russians pay back for the 100,000 they killed in Korea and Nam. Sorry you haven’t joined them, Pootie Tootie Troll.”

What has that got to do with the fact the Soviets were allies in WW II, and were allowed to commit atrocities in Germany, and even still have a monument to them there? What did you think would happen in Korea and IndoChina after removing the Japanese as the imperialists in Southeast Asia? And stop the pootie-put. It’s so faggoty and I’m not Russian.


144 posted on 12/27/2022 4:50:18 AM PST by sumuam
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To: BobL

Your statement confuses me, so in order for Russia not to be a puppet of the west they needed to invade and conquer Ukraine?

Seems to me Russia was pretty strong and more free(we can argue that point later) before invading, to what become more strong and free.

The Russian military is now far weaker and exposed for its shortcomings. Russian economy is far weaker. Before the invasion they were trading with the west had huge petrodollars coming in and if it were not for the inherent corruption that seems to be build in to the societal norm of Russian society would have been even greater

No this is about one thing Putins ego and dreams of grandeur and he will achieve this dream no matter how many have to die and how much Russia suffers
Reminds me of a little man with a little mustache in a certain German bunker


145 posted on 12/27/2022 4:50:18 AM PST by blitz128
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To: blitz128

Russia has never been an aggressor nation on Europe although it has in its own territories, just as Washington D.C. was during the Civil War and to this day with its Federal mandates and arm twisting of states that don’t adhere to its authoritarian policies. And it’s going to get worse as the decades go on, and just as balkanized as other parts of Eastern Europe, but it’s not going to happen overnight.


146 posted on 12/27/2022 4:57:40 AM PST by sumuam
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To: sumuam
Russia has never been an aggressor nation on Europe although it has in its own territories

LOL, good one, "Russia has never been an aggressor nation on Europe". Tell that to eastern Europe, before it was the Soviet Union(composed of Captive Nations), its was the Russian EMPIRE.

147 posted on 12/27/2022 5:02:57 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: sumuam

You made the accusation, not him.


148 posted on 12/27/2022 5:12:38 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: tlozo

“LOL, good one, “Russia has never been an aggressor nation on Europe”. Tell that to eastern Europe, before it was the Soviet Union(composed of Captive Nations), its was the Russian EMPIRE”

You need to learn reading comprehension. Europe isn’t Eastern Europe. I should have been more specific, so you could understand. Do you think the Federal government are just going to let the red states leave if they want to? They get extremely pissed off when they send migrants sent to their sanctuary cities. Give it another one thousand years, and there will be the same conflicts here as in Eastern Europe.


149 posted on 12/27/2022 5:13:40 AM PST by sumuam
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To: blitz128

“Your statement confuses me, so in order for Russia not to be a puppet of the west they needed to invade and conquer Ukraine?”

Yep, given what the West has stated about their INTENTIONS regarding Russia. Either Russia stops their continued advance towards that goal, or Russia becomes subservient to the West. Death by a Thousand Cuts, and it was going on long before the Ukraine War.

Really no different than the Cold War, when each side was trying to do it to the other side. Otherwise why would we have cared about Africa, or Central America, or South America.


150 posted on 12/27/2022 5:22:05 AM PST by BobL
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To: sumuam
Europe isn’t Eastern Europe

Every map/list of European countries, includes Eastern Europe.

151 posted on 12/27/2022 5:23:04 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: blitz128

“Curious how many ethnic Estonians Latvians Lithuanians, Poles, Ukrainians and others under the control of the Soviet Union were cleansed or relocated”
No clue if any were, nor do I care how many people the Romans relocated, as they were both different societies.

“I would say that many if not most of the 8 million you are referring to arrived after the Soviet Union did their thing.”
The history there is well documented.

“How many Russians have migrated to Crimea since 2014 and are they part of your 8 million?”
Likely few, if any. It was fully populated with Russians prior to its liberation and since then, its been subject to constant attack.


152 posted on 12/27/2022 5:27:39 AM PST by BobL
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Thank you very much and Happy New Year. Your advice is reminding me to try and be civil.


153 posted on 12/27/2022 6:20:59 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: BobL

“I just don’t know why people get so worked up…”

Historical reasons. Policies of the Tsars, Stalin…. They hate the Russians far more than they dislike the Nazis, with whom they worked to bring German Jews to Palestine prior to WWII.

“The enemy of my enemy is my friend,” as they say.


154 posted on 12/27/2022 6:25:29 AM PST by RAldrich
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To: Lurker

You are correct. That was the narrative coming from the western press.


155 posted on 12/27/2022 6:27:50 AM PST by CodeJockey ("The duty of a true Patriot is to protect his country from its government.” –Thomas Paine)
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To: RAldrich

“Historical reasons. Policies of the Tsars, Stalin…. They hate the Russians far more than they dislike the Nazis”

I get the reasons for the local hatred. It’s more a question of why we have people with that same blood feud at high-levels in our government, making decisions that can easily lead to WW3.

In the past, they would have spent their careers as translators, and nothing more.


156 posted on 12/27/2022 6:38:23 AM PST by BobL
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To: BobL
I sometimes ask the warwhores on here how many subversives has China got in through our southern border.

They basically OWN both ends of the Panama Canal. How easy would it be...

911 it took just around 20 to put this country on our knees. How does anyone think 2 or 3 million would do. OK...so maybe not 2 or 3 million, how about a few thousand?

1. The Norks go into South Korea. We have to send more troops there to defend that place.
2. The reds get the infiltrators to activate here in this country.
3. The mid east flares up again endangering what is left of the oil supplies w have from that region.
4. China makes its move on us by first shutting down the Canal.
5. China takes the whole of the south china sea and Pacific rim and invades Taiwan. Remember this..the population of that Island are split about 50/50 on rejoining Red China
6. Finally, invade through our southern border. A few divisions is all it takes since they already have support through the democrat party here in the USA.

157 posted on 12/27/2022 7:43:33 AM PST by crz
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To: crz

“1...6”

Sorry, idiot, cannot happen here. Why, because it hasn’t yet happened, why else?


158 posted on 12/27/2022 7:56:33 AM PST by BobL
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To: BobL

You sure love Russia don’t you? Much more than you like the United States I’m sure.


159 posted on 12/27/2022 8:26:14 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: DoodleBob

Is in reality a bunch of unrepentant filthy slime.

Agree it’s a lot of what we have in D.C. now.


160 posted on 12/27/2022 8:26:24 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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