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Is Trump now forced to run third-party?
HILL ^ | 12/24/2022 | DOUGLAS MACKINNON, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR

Posted on 12/24/2022 10:34:31 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

At a certain point, all decisions and election chances in politics come down to basic math. No matter how some consultants, pollsters or campaign managers may attempt to complicate the process to justify their fees or salaries paid by a candidate or company, it still comes down to this: Does the math finish on the “plus side” for him or her to run, and does it finish on the plus side for the candidate to win?

My mother used to say, “If you can read, you can cook.” In the arena of political elections, if you can do basic addition and subtraction, you can honestly advise a candidate whether to run. Former President Donald Trump has some of that basic math working against him — but also, for him.

What he and his mercurial ego really will do becomes the political question of the 2024 presidential cycle.

With each passing week, there are reports of more and more Republicans suffering from “Trump fatigue.” Although many still strongly approve of most of Trump’s policies from his four years in the White House, they have grown increasingly tired of his perceived juvenile antics and insults. Worse for Trump, many now blame him for the GOP losing the chance to take control of the Senate — not only in the November midterms, when he forced marginal candidates on the party with his endorsements, but also back in 2021 when he suppressed GOP voter turnout with negative comments and attacks in Georgia’s runoff election.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: douglasmackinnon; forced; greatplan; mustdoit; ofcourse; party; thebackstabparty; third; trump; yes
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To: boycott

Republicans= Uniparty.
Let it burn.


121 posted on 12/24/2022 1:24:14 PM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: Paladin2
I'm not suffering from “Trump fatigue”, I'm suffering from
“Republican fatigue”. I went Independent (although I would
never vote Democrat).

122 posted on 12/24/2022 1:28:12 PM PST by Tommy Revolts
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It does not matter how he runs. He cannot get enough acceptable votes. The election system is irretrievably corrupted in favor of the Party. Even a Republican governor in a Republican state, Georgia runs the elections for the Party.


123 posted on 12/24/2022 1:30:39 PM PST by arthurus (covfefe v)
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To: Drew68

Your 75% went down by a factor of Romney and McCain..

Romney and McCain are swamp first.
Trump gave them his support..

And they stabbed him in the back..

Now,we know for sure that Swamp first is a Republican virtue.

Bush, McCain, Romney

All enemies of Trump

I’ll stick with Trump today..


124 posted on 12/24/2022 1:33:11 PM PST by delchiante
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To: volunbeer

> . It would be a catastrophe for Trump to run 3rd party. A guaranteed victory for the left. <

There is an old saying: Do not do what your enemy wants you to do.
The left would LOVE for Trump to run 3rd party.


125 posted on 12/24/2022 1:34:41 PM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Somewhere along the way so many people have completely lost the plot. It isn’t about the person, and it isn’t about the party. It is about the Nation, and the liberties of her people.


126 posted on 12/24/2022 1:35:35 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative )
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To: dfwgator

dfwgator wrote: “At this point, what difference does it make? Pain is coming either way.”

The less pain the better. Destroying the GOP with Trump as a third party candidate it the path to maximum pain.


127 posted on 12/24/2022 1:37:02 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Any third party candidate screws our side, not the RATS. They will send deadbrain Joe in there again, maybe give Hildabeast a 2d shot or maybe even Fat@$$ mama Obammy.


128 posted on 12/24/2022 1:37:24 PM PST by RetiredArmy (POLITICIANS ARE NOT THE ANSWER!! Jesus Christ is THE Way, THE Truth & THE Life. Only by Him!!)
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To: DugwayDuke

The GOP is the Democratic Party, in the end it’s the same. Trump proved that. If there was one thing gained from his Presidency, is he showed it.


129 posted on 12/24/2022 1:38:03 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: RetiredArmy

There’s nobody on “our side” in Washington.


130 posted on 12/24/2022 1:38:34 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DugwayDuke
The less pain the better.

Like a guillotine is less painful than hanging.

131 posted on 12/24/2022 1:43:04 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Yeah, I know that. I had hoped Coach Tubby might be worth his oats, that’s why I voted for him. Now we have elected a female that many say was involved in a lot of left leaning activities over these past few years. Some of the groups putting out stuff against her said she was a left leaning lying RINO. I don’t know. I didn’t vote for her or the dimocrat. She was not my favorite for the job. She put out tons of stuff saying she was a conservative, Christian, patriot, voting against the dims, etc. Some say she was lying, putting out that stuff to cover her butt. Again, I don’t know anything about her, but Alabama is now stuck with her and AU-Tubbs. Don’t like and never, ever trusted or believed anything AU. They go through coaches like Liz Taylor did husbands. We will see if “Huge Freeze” sticks.


132 posted on 12/24/2022 1:47:21 PM PST by RetiredArmy (POLITICIANS ARE NOT THE ANSWER!! Jesus Christ is THE Way, THE Truth & THE Life. Only by Him!!)
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To: RetiredArmy
They go through coaches like Liz Taylor did husbands.

Ditto with the Gators, and most likely in 2 years, we'll be looking for a new coach too.

133 posted on 12/24/2022 1:48:55 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Paladin2

Trump’s first presidential effort was to seek the nomination of the Reform party in 1999, but Buchanan beat him.


134 posted on 12/24/2022 1:59:49 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The first problem is that the votes aren’t there. If you didn’t see a massive swing away from the Democrats this year, you won’t see much of one in 2024, especially if Trump is a factor. Split the Republican vote and the Democrats win hands down.

Secondly, Trump will be 78 in two years. If the Democrats don’t nominate Biden again, having a younger nominee will win them points with voters who don’t want another eighty-year old president.

Third, Theodore Roosevelt’s 1912 run looks like an ego trip or peevishness. People will think the same thing about Trump, especially if his behavior doesn’t shape up.

Fourth, a third party run concedes the GOP to the GOPe. It won’t go away and neither will they. I’ll vote for Trump if he runs, but don’t want him to split the vote and throw the election to the Democrats.


135 posted on 12/24/2022 2:03:23 PM PST by x
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To: x

If not Trump then who?

Believe me, if there is anyone out there, I’m all ears. But outside of DeSantis, who I really don’t think wants to run, what else is there?


136 posted on 12/24/2022 2:04:28 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Trump should have started a new political party in 2018-2019. That way the R’s wouldn’t have gotten their hands on the money that good Americans were donating to Trump. The Republican Party is much more evil than the Democrat Party. At least with the D’s, they tell you they’re gonna screw you before they do. The R’s try to say a bunch of stuff, talking points, to make you believe they’re standing behind you. Truth is, the whole damn government needs to be eliminated. Let the States run their ow show. Fat chance any of that would happen though.


137 posted on 12/24/2022 2:05:29 PM PST by RobertoinAL
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To: ansel12

Music for history repeating...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzLT6_TQmq8


138 posted on 12/24/2022 2:06:12 PM PST by spokeshave (Proud Boys, Angry Dads and Grumpy Grandads.)
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To: Ge0ffrey
This is The Hill not Breitbart. The Hill is an extreme left rag.

And?

Let's say Trump loses the primary to Ron DeSantis. Which do you think is the most likely scenario?

A.) Trump ends his campaign and enthusiastically and sincerely endorses Ron DeSantis and urges his followers to get behind his support...

Or B.) Trump refers to his rival as "Ron DeSanctimonious, RINO and GOPe stooge who never appreciated me for getting him elected!" and mounts a third party campaign under the "MAGA Party" banner.

Keep in mind, this is Trump we're talking about here.

139 posted on 12/24/2022 2:06:59 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Another party is starting to look pretty enticing.


140 posted on 12/24/2022 2:09:53 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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