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Battle for Donbas: Zelensky Says Russians Have ‘Actually Destroyed Bakhmut’
Breitbart ^ | 12/10/2022 | BREITBART LONDON

Posted on 12/10/2022 6:14:48 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) – Russian forces have “destroyed” the eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut, President Volodymyr Zelensky said, while Ukraine’s military on Saturday reported missile, rocket and air strikes in multiple parts of the country that Moscow is trying to conquer after months of resistance.

The latest battles of Russia’s 9 1/2 month war in Ukraine have centred on four provinces that Russian President Vladimir Putin triumphantly — and illegally — claimed to have annexed in late September. The fighting indicates Russia’s struggle to establish control of those regions and Ukraine’s persistence to reclaim them.

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To: lodi90
What you actually said was:

They are current partnering with Putin to nuke up Iran and using Russian money to push their green new deal.

Did this Russian say exactly what you are saying, or are you paraphrasing what you remember him saying?

I have no doubt that Biden did not stop Putin helping to arm Iran with nuclear weapons. Nor would it even surprise me if Biden might have even assisted is some form or fashion. I mean they did so before in the Obama administration. After all, when Biden shutdown the Keystone Pipeline, he signed off on Russia's pipelines.

Biden Reportedly Greenlights Russian Pipeline After Shutting Down U.S. Keystone Pipeline

But it's also true that Obama's administration orchestrated Russia's eventual steps in Ukraine, because they desired a proxy war with Russia & that the war would be staged in Ukraine. Trump interrupted their plans, as Hillary was supposed to take over the reins. That's why they had to steal the 2020 elections to get Biden installed in the White House. They also had to steal the 2022 midterm elections. They were successful in gaining control of the Senate, but they were not successful in the House

Bottom line is that I am not the least bit surprised that they may have assisted Russia.

Remember their goals are really those of a One World Government where the elites have all the power, along with mass depopulation on earth. The jabs are not working as well as they had hoped, nor has the Covid-19 engineered virus been too successful. Enter stage right, nuclear weapons will do the trick, and they will throw in starvation too, for extra added deaths.

You might want to watch this video of Matt Bracken (Travis McGee on FR) interviewing Michael Yon:

WAR, FAMINE AND DISEASE — MICHAEL YON & MATT BRACKEN

The difference between me & you is that you think you are doing good by supporting Ukraine. I'm trying to tell you that it's a distraction for the American people to ignore what is happening to our country. That buying into the narrative being sold, is assisting them with their destruction of this nation.

But no matter how I try to put it to you, you just don't get what I'm saying. Perhaps it just my inability to communicate clearly. I really do not know why you can't see or understand what I am saying, but you really need to listen to me and give it strong consideration. I have zero reason, for I have nothing to gain personally. I'm an old man whose health is not all that great. My only motivation is to defeat evil.

BTW, these same people who hate conservatives, are the same ones selling the narrative that Russia is this massive threat, which you are buying completely. It's just not true. These people in control are really the ones who are the big threat. They have no morals, nor do they have any loyalty to this nation.

Please wake up if you truly love this nation. If not than you;re being a patriot is a wasted effort, because your loyalty right now is focused on Ukraine, not the U.S. where it should be.

Look around at all of the Western so-called "Democratic" nations, and how quickly they all turned tyrannical during and after the pandemic caused such great fear amongst the idiots. They have never relinquished that tyrannical behavior. They have actually doubled down on that tyrannical hold and still haven't eased up in many of these western nations.

81 posted on 12/10/2022 4:25:01 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: deport
I personally think that applies across the board to all of us humans world wide

And we do. I was making it clear that I had provided him all I could provide. That it's up to him to decide who is lying to him. Me a stranger, or the press who are known liars?

For me that becomes an easy choice to make my choice. But then again, I know I am being truthful, but he doesn't.

It's a tough choice, but it's a choice we all have to make. Choose wrong and it most likely will cost you. Choose right and it may actually save you.

🙂 It's kind of like the choice one has to make regrading a creator or evolution.

If you choose evolution, you then have to believe that life came about by a series of conditions and occurrences happening and that they all did so in the exact order needed for life to spring forth. But then that evokes the age old question, which came first the chicken or the egg? Since the egg has to be produced what produced it. An egg also needs to be fertilized, what fertilized it? If the egg came first how did it nurture itself? when the chicken comes first, the female or male provides the nourishment.

When you see the odds of so many occurrences happening in the correct order for life to spring forth it makes you question if that is even a logical expectation.

If one concludes that it is not a logical expectation, than you must alter your conclusion to life being the product of a creator.

If it was a creator, then that does not eliminate evolution, it just means that evolution was also the product of a creator. For we have indeed seen clear examples of lifeforms experiencing evolutionary changes to better support the species.

82 posted on 12/10/2022 5:02:45 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

Once again, you mistake opinion, that of yours and others, with fact.

You and the folks you reference attempt to ascertain the motivations of others, including Putin. You also have a very slanted opinion as to what happen the Orange Revolution.

Here are some facts for you:

Ukraine did not invade Russia. Russia invaded Ukraine.

Russia had many puppets of the Kremlin who were Ukrainian politicians. The Orange Revolution removed many of those pro-Kremlin politicians thanks to a massive turnout by the Ukrainian people.

9 months after the Russian invasion Ukraine still exists.


83 posted on 12/10/2022 5:44:23 PM PST by jdsteel (PA voters elected a stroke victim and a dead guy. Not a joke.)
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To: jdsteel
Unfortunately, the invasion of Ukraine is all you people ever turn to. But you never examined the whys that invasion even happened.

But if you are going to go by your criteria, then I will do the same. Making you as guilty as I am by stating nothing more than your opinions that you got from biased sources, because you are not there personally, and therefore you have zero first hand knowledge either.

I have never denied that Russia invaded Ukraine, but it's the why that you completely ignore. You also ignore what transpired, and who was behind what transpired.

Without examining those things, you remain completely ignorant of facts that are important.

You in turn have a very s;anted opinion of what really occurred in the Orange Revolution followed by the Maidan Revolution.

You see two can play this stupid game.

Some of you jokers supporting Ukraine never even broach the reality that we are being invaded by who knows who they are, but we do occasionally confirm that some of them are terrorists. Some of them are drug smugglers, and there massive numbers of them being trafficked for lifelong existence of degradation, unless they are lucky enough to be rescued.

Why is it I never hear you people talk about these things and the damage it's doing to our country, as well as, the indignities people are forced into for survival?

Are you in any way profiting off of any of these illicit activities?

84 posted on 12/10/2022 6:10:53 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

“ The ignorance amongst you people is unbelievable. No wonder we are losing our nation to evil. You are supporting that very same evil who are succeeding in the destruction of this nation.”

You are getting hysterical, honey.

And you couldn’t be farther from the truth.

The worst corruption in Ukraine was when Putin’s puppets were in charge, using Hunter as a conduit to Joe. Putin is not your friend, and he does not wish well for you or our country. His invasion of Ukraine makes the world a more dangerous place, and the people of Ukraine are suffering the most right now. If Putin succeeds he surely won’t stop there.


85 posted on 12/10/2022 6:39:47 PM PST by jdsteel (PA voters elected a stroke victim and a dead guy. Not a joke.)
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To: jdsteel
Not hysterical sweetie, just unfettered honesty.

Your assessment of my state of mind is way off base, as is a lot of your other nonsense you spout.

I also noticed you never said even one thing about the invasion of our country. Apparently I was right that it's of no real concern for you, and you are not the least bit concerned for the human suffering occurring because of Biden's open border policies of come one come all. No questions asked. No answers required. The estimated 250 billion dollar's we spend on illegals per year is also of no concern for you either.

Now come clean and tell us what you have reaped for the sex & drug trafficking over the years. A sex slave, a few slaves around your estate, children for your pleasure? Lot's of money from the drugs? There must be some explanation as to why you are not concerned about the evil in this nation, at all.

86 posted on 12/10/2022 8:35:16 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong
LOL, you're completely ridiculous. Sure, Putin is the man of peace. ----------------------------------------------------

Prove me wrong. Show me where he encroached into Ukraine other than 2014 and the taking of Crimea

LOL, Putin invaded Ukraine in 2022. Moronic to exclude warmongering Putin's annexation of Crimea and Putin's start of a 'separatist' war in Ukraine, and still ask for more examples of 'encroach'(Weasel word for invade).

Independent Ukraine is not a 'problem'. Ukraine is an independent sovereign country with the right to choose its own treaties and alliances. In the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, Russia committed “to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine” and “to refrain from the threat or use of force” against the country.

I find it laughable that Putin supporters will point to 'coups' and 'overthrow' of governments in Ukraine as justification for Putin's invasion, as if somehow Putin is restoring 'democracy' in Ukraine. Ridiculous argument.

87 posted on 12/11/2022 12:16:30 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: tlozo
You're too ignorant to even carry on an intelligent conversation. Obviously I am aware that he finally invaded the 2nd time in Feb. of 2022. Which is ironically 8 years since the coup d-etat, which proves that he had tried for 8 years to restore some semblance of order in Eastern Ukraine, with the assistance of the international community. The Minsk Accords were created, no one would force Ukraine to implement the accords that they had signed. So, he once again decided to stop the conflict that had been raging for 8 years.

You are so brainwashed, you can't even see that Zelenskyy has sold the Ukrainian people down the proverbial river.

What country are you from anyway? If not the U.S. then handle Russia on your own. If you are from the U,S, tell me your overriding motivation for getting the U.S. involved.

88 posted on 12/11/2022 3:36:07 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong
If you are from the U,S, tell me your overriding motivation for getting the U.S. involved.

Last year we spent the equivalent of 5% of our military budget on Ukraine, which resulted in the destruction of the russian army as an offensive threat to NATO, with zero loss of our servicemen. Good thing, or not?

89 posted on 12/11/2022 3:39:49 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: tlozo
First off, Russia did not have an offensive military, strictly a defensive one.

Since they never threatened the U.S. we gained nothing and in reality we made things worse, as far as I see it. For now Russia will build that offensive military precisely because they now realize the true weakness in not possessing an offensive military for needed situations.

I assume you are referring to the 2022 fiscal year budget that ran from October 1, 2021, through September 30, 2022. So, since Russia launched their invasion on Feb. 24th 2022, we can determine that in 7 months (Mar. 01, 2022 - Sep. 30, 2022) 5% of the military's 754 billion budget, which calculates out to 37.7 billion, was spent on Ukraine. If we are being told the truth that is. Part of that expenditure were armaments in our stockpile, that were just given to them. Yeah, they say it's a lend-lease program, but the reality is that we will never see that money. What exactly will be extracted from them is a mystery, unless you know, which of course you don't.

What happens if China or some other foreign actor decides to attack the U.S., and we don't have the armaments to effectively mount a counter strike? Highly unlikely granted that a foreign nation will execute an invasion, but one always needs to take into consideration the unexpected, should they not?

How much was spent that didn't come out of the military budget? We, know that it was considerably more. We also know that we aren't accounting how that money is actually being used. Getting an accurate number disclosed seems to be rather elusive as well.

However, when you turn your attentions back to our country, we spend an estimated 250 billion annually on illegal invaders, and that expenditure has been going on for many years.

Furthermore, the claims are that the Russian Army has been destroyed are completely unsubstantiated, and in some circles it's disputed as being false claims. How many times have we heard the Democrat Party is destroyed? Last time I looked they are still going strong and the Republican Party is the one in danger of disappearing.

I think it is really too premature to fully assess if the expenditures have been worth it or not, as this war is far from over. After 20 years in Afghanistan, were those expenditures worth it, in your opinion?

90 posted on 12/11/2022 6:29:10 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong
First off, Russia did not have an offensive military, strictly a defensive one.

Okay, funny.

91 posted on 12/11/2022 6:37:59 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: Robert DeLong

More hysteria.

You haven’t mentioned the collusion of the DNC, the FBI and social media to affect an election and suppress free speech.

Now come clean and tell us how you made millions from Twitter, Facebook & Instagram.

See how silly that sounds?

And it’s “Lots”, not “Lot’s”.


92 posted on 12/11/2022 7:02:42 AM PST by jdsteel (PA voters elected a stroke victim and a dead guy. Not a joke.)
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To: jdsteel
Oh I have many times, they are some of the problems that face this nation. I've even mentioned them to you Ukraine cheerleaders numerous times. After a while I know when issues have zero affect in making you turn your attentions back to the U.S. where they are needed. So, eventually I give up on even mentioning them.

Mainly because you all are so brainwashed that this fight in Ukraine is of the utmost importance to the survival of the U.S.

93 posted on 12/11/2022 8:05:43 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: lodi90

Ukraine has been the center of USA corruption.

Let Russia have it


94 posted on 12/12/2022 9:58:19 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare its ? And the ambassador to Ukraineelf)
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To: lodi90

It is not our responsibility to give Ukraine the means to defend itself. Ukraine should have created its own means to defend itself.

Trump pointed this out before- NATO countries were saving a fortune because they had no defense expenditure- they relied on the US.

And Trump also pointed out they were not PAYING for such protection. There were even questioned about this and their response was “no one ever asked us to”


95 posted on 12/12/2022 10:02:42 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare its ? And the ambassador to Ukraineelf)
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To: Mr. K

Russia and China are the centers of corruption. Ukraine is a backwater. Yeah, let’s let Russia have it so they can send massively more dirty money to corrupt our country.


96 posted on 12/12/2022 11:44:45 AM PST by lodi90
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To: ganeemead; Greetings_Puny_Humans; dennisw; Williams

Oh, ganee. So fine

Ganeemead on 10th December 2022 “Bakhmut has been liberated. “

Then on 24th January 2023 “Ukrainians are going to lose in bakhmut”

Every day he moves the goalposts


97 posted on 02/24/2023 2:04:31 AM PST by Cronos
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To: ChicagoConservative27
"Russian forces have “destroyed” the eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut, President Volodymyr Zelensky said"

You're talking about Commodamir Ichabodovich Zelensky, the HMFIC of Hohostan?

The guy should lighten up, all the world hates a crybaby, especially a NAZI crybaby...


98 posted on 02/24/2023 7:03:20 AM PST by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: jdsteel
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The suffering of the hoho people is entirely due to the actions of NATO fops, pentagon and neocon wankers, and the criminal regime in Kiev. When Russia takes that place over, the suffering will vanish as if by magic.

100 posted on 02/24/2023 7:18:01 AM PST by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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