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Congress should end the war in Ukraine by withdrawing from NATO
The Hill ^ | 11/25/2022 | BRUCE FEIN

Posted on 11/25/2022 12:08:52 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27

Congress can end the war in Ukraine and win a Nobel Peace Prize by enacting a statute withdrawing the United States from NATO — transforming it from a mighty offensive oak into a tiny acorn unalarming to Russia.

As early as 1798, Congress nullified a defense treaty with France by statute. A congressional end to United States participation in NATO would be no constitutional novelty.

At the very latest, NATO became obsolete in 1991 when its raison d’etre — the Soviet Empire — dissolved. By remaining in NATO and spearheading its expansion to Russia’s borders with 30 members, the United States provoked President Vladimir Putin’s attack on Ukraine. It was poised to join NATO to fortify the encirclement of an already diminished Russia constituting a greater existential threat to it than the existential threat the Cuban missile crisis posed to the United States.

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To: ChicagoConservative27

That wouldn’t actually end anything. NATO’s got nothing to do with it. Putin is just an expansionist.


21 posted on 11/25/2022 12:34:16 PM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Timber Rattler
Nevermind the fact that Comrade Putin's stated goal is to REBUILD the Soviet Union.

Nevermind is correct.

Had NATO been shut down in 1991, had the West taken a friendly attitude toward Russia (as we did toward Germany and Japan after WW2), then Putin might not have seen any need "to REBUILD the Soviet Union."

22 posted on 11/25/2022 12:35:25 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: escapefromboston

250 years ago the world was a lot bigger. Foreign entanglements can no long be avoided in a world where nothing is more than 24 hours away from anything. The world is now entangled.


23 posted on 11/25/2022 12:35:55 PM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
"Just get rid of NATO instead."

75-year-old toe-tapper says what?

CC, you do realize that one of President Trump's greatest accomplishments was whipping, "whip it good", NATO into (a) paying overdue bills; and (b) realigning NATO causes to make-nice towards US interests.

Why the f do you think NATO is so attractive NOW, to the point where Finland and notoriously-neutral Sweden want in.

Don't be like the Putlims, it won't end well.

24 posted on 11/25/2022 12:35:58 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: StAnDeliver
CC, you do realize that one of President Trump's greatest accomplishments was whipping, "whip it good", NATO into (a) paying overdue bills; and (b) realigning NATO causes to make-nice towards US interests.

"realigning NATO causes to make-nice towards US interests" is Neocon talk, not America First.

America First means no foreign aid. Europe, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Japan -- all are rich and can afford to pay 100% of their own defense.

25 posted on 11/25/2022 12:41:00 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

isolationism doesn’t work

but despots like Russia and China appreciate your attempts to cast allies to the wolves


26 posted on 11/25/2022 12:46:09 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Congress should end the war in Ukraine by withdrawing from NATO

This is amusing in its total delusion and naivete

US neocons and the MIC waged war on Trump and are burning up trust in US government institutions and elections, because Trump merely said NATO countries should pay their own way and the US got involved in too many stupid wars

What would happen to any serious politicians proposing elimination of NATO? They would be eliminated within hours.

27 posted on 11/25/2022 12:51:34 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Angelino97

By funding NATO, America has in effect 25+ military bases in Europe.


28 posted on 11/25/2022 12:51:58 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: discostu
The world is now entangled.

Your bowels are entangled.

29 posted on 11/25/2022 12:53:46 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: ChicagoConservative27

If 0bama can win a Nobel, anyone, including Congress or a Porta-John, can win a Nobel.


30 posted on 11/25/2022 12:54:44 PM PST by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! R)
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To: JonPreston

which country isn’t in NATO? - Ukraine

which country got invaded by Russia? - Ukraine

THAT’S why Sweden and Finland want to join, and that’s why NATO is *still* needed in the 21st Century


31 posted on 11/25/2022 12:56:05 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: ChicagoConservative27

NATO should have been dissolved decades ago and the USA should also ditch the United Nations.


32 posted on 11/25/2022 12:57:16 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: JonPreston

Oh you’re so clever. With your tiny little penis and massive unsupported ego.

Meanwhile my point stands. In a world where any minor event anywhere on the planet can effect America deeply isolationism is no longer possible. Anybody that thinks it is would be stupid enough to think saying something about someone’s bowels is worth a damn.


33 posted on 11/25/2022 12:57:39 PM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: canuck_conservative

Hush foreigner.


34 posted on 11/25/2022 12:58:25 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Screw that.

Pure insanity.


35 posted on 11/25/2022 12:58:28 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: jacknhoo

Eisenhower even said something like if we are still here in 15 years we failed!


36 posted on 11/25/2022 12:59:17 PM PST by Reily
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Congress can end the war in Ukraine and win a Nobel Peace Prize by enacting a statute withdrawing the United States from NATO — transforming it from a mighty offensive oak into a tiny acorn unalarming to Russia.

Such a Nobel Peace Prize would be worth about as much as the one awarded to Barack Hussein Obama.

Regards,

37 posted on 11/25/2022 1:00:40 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: discostu
With your tiny little penis

Wow, where did that gay crap come from? It's no wonder you adore Zelensky.


38 posted on 11/25/2022 1:03:02 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

get lost Irish commie


39 posted on 11/25/2022 1:03:37 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Magnum44

Yep, get the UN out of the US including the US....;)


40 posted on 11/25/2022 1:04:25 PM PST by Dawgreg
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