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Kremlin now says Zelenskyy can stay in power in Ukraine
The Washington Times ^ | November 21, 2022 | Mike Glenn

Posted on 11/21/2022 12:37:35 PM PST by Timber Rattler

Russia is apparently walking back its earlier goals to overthrow Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s government in its faltering invasion.

On Monday, a Kremlin spokesman said the “special operation” in Ukraine ordered by Russian President Vladimir Putin is not focused on regime change in Kyiv.

“No, the president has spoken about this already,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters, according to TASS, the official Russian news agency.

In February, Mr. Putin called on the Ukrainian military to oust Mr. Zelenskyy.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: europe; leaveintheclowns; nato; nevermind; putinbots; ukraine; walkingback; war
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Well, isn't that right generous of Comrade Putin?

So I wonder what changed his mind?

Oh yeah---Kherson.

1 posted on 11/21/2022 12:37:35 PM PST by Timber Rattler
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Buying time for a build-up.

I think that if Russia/Putin agree to peace talks, they will stick very hard to the no-NATO and non defense demands.

If they do, it tells me they realized they weren’t ready to deal with a full Ukraine invasion this time, but they know what they need for the next move, in say, 5 years, and they’ll work hard on their tech.build up, including getting support from their current supplier axis.


2 posted on 11/21/2022 12:41:24 PM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: Timber Rattler

Kherson was a fait accompli and both Putin and his generals knew it. That they are unable to remove/kill Zelensky is also an inescapable reality.

The war is lost. Russia’s position is untenable and they will not be able to get back to their pre-war military strength and they know it.

To me this means they know Crimea is indefensible. So now they pivot from waging war to trying to rush a peace so they can hold on to some of what they’ve stolen.

My advice to the Ukrainians is to press on until the Russian will to fight and their ability to fight collapses.

The Ukrainians don’t have to win this war in the traditional sense. They simply need to keep denying the Russians any victories.


3 posted on 11/21/2022 12:45:08 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Timber Rattler

Zelenskiy is an accomplished actor. He can change roles on a dime


4 posted on 11/21/2022 12:48:12 PM PST by map
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But Putin can’t.

Russia can stop their attacks.

Russia can turn Putin over for trial and ask for forgiveness.

Best thing for Russia. Win win all around.


5 posted on 11/21/2022 12:48:55 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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never heard that as being an intent...we know for certain that the dancing perv wanted us to take Putin and Russia out...


6 posted on 11/21/2022 12:52:39 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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7 posted on 11/21/2022 12:55:00 PM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Sacajaweau

we know that Russia was trying to eliminate Ukraine ... that’s why they’re fighting so hard


8 posted on 11/21/2022 12:55:16 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Sacajaweau
never heard that as being an intent...we know for certain that the dancing perv wanted us to take Putin and Russia out.

LOL, even Kremlin propagandists admit Kyiv was the targer.


9 posted on 11/21/2022 12:57:34 PM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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Well, isn't that right generous of Comrade Putin?

Wait, Putin is now okay with drug-addicted, neo-Nazi' leaders? Lol

10 posted on 11/21/2022 12:59:27 PM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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Of course they want him to stay put. Zelenskyy is the best weapon Putin has; his constant demand for money is going to America down with him.


11 posted on 11/21/2022 1:01:33 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: MeganC
The war is lost. Russia’s position is untenable and they will not be able to get back to their pre-war military strength and they know it.

Thank you, General MeganC for your input!

12 posted on 11/21/2022 1:02:03 PM PST by PGR88
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Well these aged well:

The cousin of George Soros, Zelensky will step down soon.
posted on 9/22/2022, 8:54:12 AM by mountainlion

After all it’s over for Zelenskyy and his corrupt clique.
8/31/2022, 11:07:42 AM by JonPreston

And I predict he will soon take his family and run.
4 posted on 5/24/2022, 7:09:29 AM by Sacajaweau


13 posted on 11/21/2022 1:04:27 PM PST by FreshPrince
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Well these aged well:

The cousin of George Soros, Zelensky will step down soon.
posted on 9/22/2022, 8:54:12 AM by mountainlion

After all it’s over for Zelenskyy and his corrupt clique.
8/31/2022, 11:07:42 AM by JonPreston

And I predict he will soon take his family and run.
4 posted on 5/24/2022, 7:09:29 AM by Sacajaweau


14 posted on 11/21/2022 1:05:29 PM PST by FreshPrince
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To: Timber Rattler

To your delight!!
LMAO.

Maybe the neo-Nazi Zaluzhnyi will invariably replace ZelenskyyIdiot in the near future cause the increasing whispers in the halls of NATO in Haren/Brussels is that the future claims and assertions by ZelenskyyIdiot can not be trusted and should now be vigorously questioned.

Go figure...


15 posted on 11/21/2022 1:05:30 PM PST by cranked
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Mighty white of Putin.


16 posted on 11/21/2022 1:08:43 PM PST by RedMonqey
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To: MeganC

“The Ukrainians don’t have to win this war in the traditional sense. They simply need to keep denying the Russians any victories.”

It’s not even that. I do expect at some point Russia will throw everything into a Battle of the Bulge type offensive.

But even if Russia takes Bakhmut or retakes Lyman would that break the Ukrainian will to fight?


17 posted on 11/21/2022 1:11:53 PM PST by Renfrew
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To: FreshPrince
Give them some time. Castro Jr., the king of France and Zelenskyy will leave I suppose about the same time.
18 posted on 11/21/2022 1:15:22 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: FreshPrince
Exactly how much afternoon drinking do you do? And tell us about your aged face.


19 posted on 11/21/2022 1:20:18 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: MeganC
Crimea should not go back to Ukraine. They do not want to. They agreed it to join Ukraine narrowly after Ukraine made many promises about autonomy which it unilaterally rescinded after the Maidan. Attacking Kiev was outrageous, a criminally stupid act of aggression which was despite the Kremlin buttlickers around here, absolutely 100% indefensible. But Crimea shouldn't pay for the sins of Putin... or Stalin.
20 posted on 11/21/2022 1:21:59 PM PST by dangus
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