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Posted on 11/11/2022 2:20:29 PM PST by Cronos
Right after Russia invaded Ukraine, TV talk show hosts here were confidently predicting that within days Russian troops would be marching through Kyiv.
That was nearly nine months ago.
This week the same presenters were grim faced as they announced the army's "difficult decision" to withdraw Russian forces from Kherson - the only Ukrainian regional capital Russia had managed to capture and occupy since invading Ukraine on 24 February. Just six weeks ago, President Putin had claimed to have annexed Kherson region, along with three other Ukrainian territories, insisting that they would be part of Russia forever.
...pro-war Russian military bloggers. They've been busy writing angry messages about the retreat, such as:
"This is a massive geopolitical defeat for Putin and Russia…the defence ministry lost the trust of society long ago…now trust in the president will disappear." [ 'Zloi Zhurnalist']
...Events of the last nine months risk changing how the president is perceived here at home: not so much by the Russian public, but - crucially - by the Russian elite, by the people around him, by the people in power.
For years they have viewed Mr Putin as a master strategist, as someone who always manages to come out on top… as a winner.
"Winning", though, has been in short supply since 24 February. Vladimir Putin's invasion has not gone according to plan. Not only has it resulted in death and destruction in Ukraine, but significant military losses for his own army. He'd promised that only "professional soldiers" would do the fighting, yet later drafted hundreds of thousands of Russian citizens into the military to take part in the war. The economic costs, too, for Russia have been considerable.
The Kremlin used to portray Vladimir Putin as "Mr Stability" here in Russia.
That's become a much harder sell.
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...
Putin really stepped in it this time!
It’s all over for him now!
And THIS time I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY mean it!
Putin should have NEVER done it!
then we have this:
“Ukraine’s military units in the Donbass in the area of Lysychansk are now essentially encircled
It’s all over except for Zelenskyy cashing our check(s).
24 posted on 5/26/2022, 7:10:40 PM by JonPreston “
ping!
And this:
Pin pricks don’t win wars/conflicts and if this is ALL the Ukrainians have left against those dastardly Ruzzians,
not looking good for Ukraine, at all, especially given that nearly every Ukrainian counter-offensive they have committed has resulted in disaster.....
3 posted on 8/27/2022, 4:23:25 AM by cranked
And this:
How is that Kherson offensive going? Ready to payoff on the bet you made? 22 posted on 9/17/2022, 5:38:54 PM by Kazan
Or perhaps consider this:
but it’s NOT predictions anymore, not in the last 48 hours. You guys need to find a new war to start.
29 posted on 6/23/2022, 5:49:07 PM by BobL
And we cant forget about:
Don’t tell the war cheerleaders. Some of them are desperate to cling to the fantasy that the Ukes aren’t losing and losing badly.
49 posted on 7/22/2022, 7:05:27 PM by FLT-bird
And I think Kazans fantasty world is the one collapsing...
“By the end of the next month, when Russia still possesses Kherson, your fantasy world comes to end.
17 posted on 8/30/2022, 6:58:44 PM by Kazan”
Good thing those Russian tanks have lots of reverse gears
they’re gonna need ‘em
And I think Kazans fantasty world is the one collapsing...
“By the end of the next month, when Russia still possesses Kherson, your fantasy world comes to end.
17 posted on 8/30/2022, 6:58:44 PM by Kazan”
“Or perhaps consider this:”
How much are you paid to take notes and how does it feel to be working for people who hate this country?
Rubbing their noses in it is plenty of compensation. I think people who post such vile stuff and are proven wrong deserve it.
End of August or thereabouts is do or die for both Ukraine and ZelenskyyIdiot. Bet.
5 posted on 7/30/2022, 10:21:33 AM by cranked
You’re nuts if you think Ukraine is capable of launching any effective counteroffensive. This just bullsh#t created in order to give cover to politicians that want to continue to pour money into this failed proxy war.
20 posted on 7/30/2022, 11:57:55 AM by Kazan
“The reliance of ad hominem attacks just illustrates the weakness of your position.”
I’m not the one stalking people on FR.
You REEK of a Soros operation, specifically Media Matters - exact same M.O.
“End of August or thereabouts is do or die for both Ukraine and ZelenskyyIdiot. Bet.”
He wasn’t wrong on that one, but the Ukrainians did rather than die. They launched two successful offensives that saved their country.
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