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REVEALED: Kanye West can't sell 'White Lives Matter' apparel because the trademark is owned by two black activists who want to prevent anyone from 'profiting off the pain' of phrase
Daily Mail ^ | November 2, 2022 | Keith Griffith

Posted on 11/02/2022 8:43:20 PM PDT by Angelino97

Two black radio hosts have revealed that they own the trademark to the phrase 'White Lives Matter,' preventing the artist formerly known as Kanye West or anyone else from profiting off the controversial phrase.

Ramses Ja and Quinton Ward, Phoenix-based activists and hosts of the nationally syndicated radio show Civic Cipher, revealed their trademark rights in a recent interview with radio station KRRL-FM.

'We are the holder of the federal trademark for White Lives Matter,' said Ja. 'If you want to sell that shirt, you have to come knock on my door, or you have to face Morris, my lawyer.'...

Ja and Ward explained that the trademark for 'White Lives Matter' was originally registered by one of their listeners, who transferred it to them in a process that was recently completed.

'This person who first procured it didn't really love owning it, because the purpose was not necessarily to get rich off of it; the purpose was to make sure that other people didn't get rich off of that pain,' Ja told the news site Capital B.

Ja and Ward say that they plan to enforce their trademark rights to ensure any use of the phrase ultimately goes to benefit black and brown communities.

'We know that phrases like 'White Lives Matter,' 'All Lives Matter,' and 'Blue Lives Matter' continue to cause harm and to dilute the narrative that was intended to be established by Black Lives Matter,' Ja told Capital B.

'Those phrases are piggybacking off of black people's creativity and efforts, so we're all for helping to use this as a measure to allow black people to retain a little bit of ownership,'

A review of federal records confirms that Civic Cipher LLC is the owner of the 'White Lives Matter' trademark, first registered on October 3.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
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1. Trademarks can be challenged. I wish I were a billionaire. I'd hired top attorneys to challenge this, just to hassle these guys with lawfare.

2. Imagine if a white person had registered "Black Lives Matter." Would it be respected? Would there be riots? Demands for its return plus reparations? Would the Patent & Trademark Office cancel or transfer the trademark?


1 posted on 11/02/2022 8:43:20 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

I suspect they weren’t the first to use the term.


2 posted on 11/02/2022 8:47:58 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Angelino97

Trademarks have to be used or they will get lost.


3 posted on 11/02/2022 8:49:11 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Angelino97

Caucasian Lives Matter!

Lite Tan Lives Matter!


4 posted on 11/02/2022 8:50:48 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Angelino97

Who owns All Lives Matter? Caucasian Lives Matter. Fleshtone Lives Matter Creamy White Lives Matter.


5 posted on 11/02/2022 8:52:36 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Brian Griffin

LOL....congrats...GMTA


6 posted on 11/02/2022 8:53:38 PM PDT by xp38
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Hmm. Isn’t that “cybersquatting”, to a degree?


7 posted on 11/02/2022 8:54:37 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Angelino97

B urn
L oot &
M urder

should be RICO’d if there were truly liberty AND JUSTICE for all!


8 posted on 11/02/2022 8:55:35 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Angelino97

They admitted on their radio show that they were squatting on the trademark not to protect intellectual property, but to keep others from profitting. I’m not going to say that this practice is illegal, but i will say that someone of Kanye’s means can probably find a lawyer to challenge the trademark and compel them to defend it.

This is bad on an absolute scale because it deliberately stifles creativity, but it is also stuff corporate america (and the left) does all the time to harrass, bankrupt, and stifle their competition and their opposition.


9 posted on 11/02/2022 8:57:24 PM PDT by jz638
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To: Angelino97

The power of a single letter =

White Olives matter


10 posted on 11/02/2022 8:57:48 PM PDT by Bob434 (question)
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To: Angelino97
'Those phrases are all piggybacking off of black people's creativity and efforts, so we're all for helping to use this as a measure to allow black people to retain a little bit of ownership,' he added.

Whose creativity and efforts are they piggybacking off of when they are radio hosts?

11 posted on 11/02/2022 9:01:56 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (c)
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To: Brian Griffin

All God’s Children’s Lives Matter.


12 posted on 11/02/2022 9:01:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Let's Go Nanzi! Cough up the Hammergate security video!)
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To: Angelino97; All
Actually, I now realize the trademark was merely "registered" on October 3.

But trademark and patents are not like copyrights. Mere registration doesn't grant any rights. I think registering a trademark only begins the review process, which can take a year or more, and can be dismissed for any number of reasons.

Any Intellectual Property attorneys here?

13 posted on 11/02/2022 9:02:11 PM PDT by Angelino97
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This person who first procured it didn’t really love owning it, because the purpose was not necessarily to get rich off of it; the purpose was to make sure that other people didn’t get rich off of that pain,’ Ja told the news site Capital B.

/\

Absolute lie.

Commie punkass lie.


14 posted on 11/02/2022 9:08:09 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: Angelino97

Trademarking “White Lives Matter” is stupid. They are probably dumb enough to trademark “Black Tires Roll” and “Blenders Need Water”


15 posted on 11/02/2022 9:12:08 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: Angelino97

“White Life Matters,” there, all fixed.


16 posted on 11/02/2022 9:22:59 PM PDT by batazoid
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To: Angelino97
Luckily, I own the Trademark for THIS:

NO LIVES MATTER


17 posted on 11/02/2022 9:27:47 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Lazamataz
Damn. Someone's infringing your TM.


18 posted on 11/02/2022 9:36:03 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97
This is fake news. The mark is not "Registered." They filed an application for registration. Before registration, the application has to be examined and approved for publication by the trademark office (USPTO). If the mark is approved by the USPTO, there will be a 1-month opposition period where anyone with standing can challenge the registrability of the mark.

Kayne West used the mark before they did, which gives him priority and seniority. In the U.S., trademark rights come from usage under common law. The first party to use the mark has priority. Third parties cannot hijack someone else's mark that is already in use in commerce by beating them to the USPTO. Registration has value, but common law rights are more important.

The type of application filed by the activists is 1B ("intent to use"), which requires a bona fide intent to use the mark in commerce. You cannot file a mark just to squat on it or stop others from using it.

Here is a link to the application: https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=97617868

Some other marks applied for include:


19 posted on 11/02/2022 9:39:27 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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To: Angelino97

Chances are the listener filed a so-called “intent to use” application for a federal trademark, that the listener had never sold anything bearing that mark, and that neither the listener nor the person(s) to whom the listener transferred ownership of the mark day has sold a single article bearing that mark to this day

So, yeah, the so-called trademark is probably invalid.


20 posted on 11/02/2022 9:42:58 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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