Yes. These fossil fuel buses are death traps. Another:.
Posted on 10/28/2022 11:35:11 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
As the U.S. government rolls out an array of climate measures included in the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) and the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA), electric school buses have emerged as one of the low-hanging fruits. They can immediately improve health for children and communities, while expediting the broader transition to electric vehicles — a crucial step in preventing the worst impacts of climate change. That’s why it is great news that the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) just announced nearly $1 billion in rebate awards to 389 school districts. A full 95 percent of the buses funded will be electric school buses. Now, every state is part of the electric school bus revolution, alongside Washington, D.C., territories and tribal nations.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Who teaches the kids when the buses full on them are stranded on the side of the road on a frigid winter day?
It will be the parents “teaching” the school district administrators who they work for...
;-)
Yes. These fossil fuel buses are death traps. Another:.
16 in this ICE powered death trap.
Yes, ICE vehicles are more likely to catch fire than EVs, but EV fires burn much, much hotter and are impossible to put out with water.
If you are in a hurricane prone area, then you have to quickly tow any EVs that got wet with salt water away from any structures because they will spontaneously combust. Also, good luck evacuating people from any natural disaster using EVs, since they will run out of power while stuck for hours in traffic.
If you are in an area with a lot of hills, or in the North where you need to run heat, or in the South where you need to run AC, or if you want to tow anything in your expensive new EV truck or SUV, then your range between charges will drop to nothing. EVs are unusable for people who do not live in single family homes in urban areas, who can afford their own overnight charging stations and who only use them for running around town.
If people switch from ICEs to EVs, then you can look forward to frequent brownouts, since the electric grid can barely handle current loads and no one is building any new gas, coal or nuclear plants. Contrary to popular believe, EVs are not powered by rainbows or unicorn farts.
Plus, the cost of EVs (up front and to repair) far exceeds the cost of comparable ICEs. The environmental cost of mining for the necessary rare elements for EV batteries is far greater than the cost of using fossil fuels.
Of course, the goal has never been to force people to give up their ICEs for EVs. The goal is to force most people to give up any private vehicles and ride mass transit. Then the rich liberal elite can ride around in their $100K EVs without waiting in traffic with the little people.
Perhaps. But I've seen videos of electric busses spontaneously burning, that had the batteries in the ceiling/roof. The problem with those, is that they run hot in sunny weather and overheat the batteries, causing a fire. Bus gets engulfed in flames within seconds, extremely hot flames pouring down onto passengers.
“If you are in an area with a lot of hills, or in the North where you need to run heat, or in the South where you need to run AC, or if you want to tow anything in your expensive new EV truck or SUV, then your range between charges will drop to nothing. “
ABSOLUTLY FALSE.
“If people switch from ICEs to EVs, then you can look forward to frequent brownouts, since the electric grid can barely handle current loads a”
That is only for some areas AND only during afternoon peaks.
Even when California had shortages recently there was excess capacity for most of the day and night.
As far as California having excess grid capacity at night, you must have missed all those advisories in August and September telling people in California NOT to charge there EVs at night because the grid could not keep up with people using AC and charging EVs at the same time. Just wait until a few million more EVs are competing for power.
“As far as California having excess grid capacity at night, you must have missed all those advisories in August and September telling people in California NOT to charge there EVs at night because the grid could not keep up with people using AC and charging EVs at the same time. “
Thanks for providing a link that falsifies your post
THE advisory IS FOR 4PM TO 9PM. That leaves 9PM to 4PM with excess capacity.
Apparently, you cannot charge them during the day or at night.
“They then take over 12 hours to fully recharge”
The F-150 Lightning can accept up to 150 kW, and Ford estimates a 15% to 80% charge time of 41 minutes for Lightning with the extended range battery pack, and 44 minutes for trucks with the standard range pack. The fact that Lightning with the larger battery pack will reach 80% three minutes faster than it will with the smaller standard range battery pack indicates that Ford has implemented a much more aggressive charging curve on the Lightning with the extended range pack. InsideEVs will be conducting a full 0 to 100% DC fast charging test on the Lightning as soon as Ford makes one available to us.
It’s important to note that those DC fast charging time estimates are only valid when charging on a 150 kW (or higher) DC fast charger. There are still a lot of DC fast chargers in service that are limited to 50 kW, and while charging on one of those, Lightning with the standard range pack will take 91 minutes to charge from 15% to 80%.
https://insideevs.com/news/560152/charging-ford-f150-lightning-explained/
“Apparently, you cannot charge them during the day or at night.”
Quit lying.
Quit being a whiney little baby when you are proven wrong.
“Quit being a whiney little baby when you are proven wrong.”
QUIT LYING>
“Apparently, you cannot charge them during the day or at night.”
Again you lie. That article is talking about the future and it says you can charge day and night.
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