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Did You Know? Europe now has a natural gas oversupply (if you include ships waiting to unload)
Hotair ^ | 10/24/2022 | John Sexton

Posted on 10/24/2022 8:18:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

We all know how this has played out. This summer Russia started monkeying with the natural gas supply to Germany and the rest of Europe, claiming there was some technical problem that required maintenance. Then they cut the gas off completely and not long after that someone blew up the Nord Stream pipeline. The result of all this has been a huge spike in energy prices in Europe and concern that there might not be enough gas to heat homes this winter.

But here we are in late October and the situation is looking very different. For one thing, Europe has mostly filled the underground gas storage tanks for the winter. Collectively, the plan was to fill storage to 80% by November 1 but with a week left to go, European storage is 93.4% filled.

When Russia started playing with the gas supply, prices went way up but now the opposite is happening. Prices have dropped below $100 for the first time in months and there are lots of liquified natural gas tankers floating off the coasts of Europe waiting to unload.

Sixty LNG tankers have been idling or slowly sailing around northwest Europe, the Mediterranean, and the Iberian Peninsula, according to MarineTraffic. One is anchored at the Suez Canal. Eight LNG vessels that came from the U.S. are underway to Spain’s Huelva port.

“The wave of LNG tankers has overwhelmed the ability of the European regasification facilities to unload the cargoes in a timely manner,” said Andrew Lipow, president of Lipow Oil Associates…

European gas prices had soared above 340 euros ($332.6) per megawatt hour in late August, but this week dipped below $100 for the first time since Russia cut supplies. Before the war, the price had been as low as 30 euros.

An investment analyst did a Twitter thread on this yesterday.




European countries "mail-ordered" massive amounts of Liquid Natural Gas after the European Comission asked countries to move ahead of the curve in June

But suddenly there is no where to place the gas arriving via the sea in France, Italy and Spain

3/n


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— AndreasStenoLarsen (@AndreasSteno) October 24, 2022

The price of storing LNG at ships is also going bananas as operators hope that the net demand/supply balance will flip in 3-4 weeks from now when the heating season kicks in..

5/n


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— AndreasStenoLarsen (@AndreasSteno) October 24, 2022

And there’s one more factor that is creating a short term over-supply. The temperature in Europe has been well-above average so far, meaning less gas is leaving those underground storage tanks than anticipated.


The weather forecast for 1 Nov still points to >15 degrees celsius across the European continent way above usual averages, which hints that the over-supply will continue another week or two at least

7/n


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— AndreasStenoLarsen (@AndreasSteno) October 24, 2022

It has been an unseasonably warm October.

📈 It's been a mild October so far and this week will remain unseasonably warm

A trough in the jet stream keeps low pressure anchored to the west of the UK and maintains southerly winds, allowing temperatures to reach the low 20s Celsius in places pic.twitter.com/boLUd9tktp

— Met Office (@metoffice) October 24, 2022

And the result of all of this is that prices should keep dropping.


Bottom-line:

1) Storages are close to being filled 100%
2) Prices to store LNG at ships is sky-rocketting
3) The weather forecast remains mild

Don't rule out prices close to 0 soon

9/n

— AndreasStenoLarsen (@AndreasSteno) October 24, 2022

But as good as this looks, the situation could turn very quickly. That’s because Europe’s gas storage needs continual resupply. So if the weather suddenly turns cold, the surplus could disappear in a matter of days or weeks. Unfortunately, there’s no telling what things will look like a month from now. Here’s the cautious view from a commodities analyst. Because natgas can only be consumed or stored. If storage is (95%) full & not consumed (mild weather), prices have to do the work to keep system balanced as comdties trade in present (d-s), unlike equities/bonds which discount future.


And Europe has not yet began to consume gas as it experiences and exceptionally mild October so far.

4/n EU gas withdrawal in (GWh/day)


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— Alexander Stahel 🇺🇦 (@BurggrabenH) October 19, 2022



Here is a visual how to think about the global LNG market.

In general: US, Qatar & Australia are the big 3 exporters while EU, China, Japan & South Korea are the big importers of the global LNG market.

Of course, Middle East (UAE; Oman) & Nigeria or Angola matter too.


So is the gas crisis over? Of course not.

Europe needs to replace even more LNG in 2023 which will get much harder.

One way to verify that is by looking at the futures curve. It prices TTF at €140/MWh come Nov 2022 and into April 2024.

5/n


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— Alexander Stahel 🇺🇦 (@BurggrabenH) October 19, 2022

So how can Europe balance its 2023 market?

It will have to source approx 210bcm LNG, ceteris paribus.

That is 60bcm > than 2022 (which was 60bcm > than 2021).

Weather + Groningen field spare cap of 20bcm are only factors that can change this forecast meaningfully.

8/n


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— Alexander Stahel 🇺🇦 (@BurggrabenH) October 19, 2022

In short, even if they get through this winter in good shape, they are still going to need even more gas next year and that won’t be easy or cheap to do.



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To: DesertRhino

“Sixty LNG tankers have been idling or slowly sailing around northwest Europe, the Mediterranean, and the Iberian Peninsula, according to MarineTraffic.”

Assuming this is actually true, the Third World is going to go through hell this winter, as those tankers could have been sending them LNG for months, at this point.

Regardless, they’ll know who to blame for their massive suffering and it won’t be ‘Putin’.


41 posted on 10/24/2022 11:46:09 PM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 35 degrees)
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To: kiryandil

“It’s not even November, and already the FR Pollyannas are claiming “mild winter””

Too funny, I saw that claim also. Imagine that, one’s reason for existence on this planet is predicated on the same Global Warming that they’ve spent their lives fighting against...actually happening, at least for this winter.


42 posted on 10/24/2022 11:48:27 PM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 35 degrees)
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To: joshua c

“how many days supply if storage is at 100%? 30 days?”

Roughly 30 to 40 days during winter, by my estimate, using their claimed numbers. Probably 4 months during the summer.

It’s also not clear just how fast the gas can be retrieved, or how much can be retrieved as the bulk of their storage is underground, which presents a full set of challenges as the amount starts to run down.


43 posted on 10/24/2022 11:54:13 PM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 35 degrees)
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To: buwaya

“And people are wondering where the Ukrainian reparations from Russia will be coming from. Look there.”

...and the people wondering why the rest of the world, led by China and India, are moving their money away from the West as fast as they can, look there too. They know what happens to their money if West needs a new enemy next week.


44 posted on 10/24/2022 11:57:25 PM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

There is vast capital flight from China, to the “west”. Worse at the moment.


45 posted on 10/25/2022 12:16:11 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: lightman

One heating oil is very similar to diesel. Have you talked to a trucker lately?


46 posted on 10/25/2022 12:53:54 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Home heating oil.


47 posted on 10/25/2022 12:54:19 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow - dragged that out almost as long as Kuddly Kami talking about “communities”...


48 posted on 10/25/2022 3:47:03 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: lightman

https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=NY

That’s for NY.

We consume plenty of nat gas that’s now going to the EU...


49 posted on 10/25/2022 3:49:53 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: DesertRhino

My butcher predicts a warm winter, but my plumber says cold.


50 posted on 10/25/2022 3:59:20 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Come back, President Trump.)
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To: A strike
No problem then, right? Calling BullShiite

The problem is that Europe has no place to store all of this LNG which is why the ships are sitting idle. Nord Stream alleviated the need for long-term storage.

51 posted on 10/25/2022 4:06:04 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Cronos

Who the hell is “we” when it come to Europe? “They” is the pronoun that you are looking for.


52 posted on 10/25/2022 4:18:36 AM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: canuck_conservative
"Because they had the nerve to oppose Russia"

No, it is because the Europeans are both arrogant and NEEDY. They are the lazy relative that constantly gives you unwanted advice and criticism and constantly asks for money. They and the crooked Ukrainians can go to hell.

53 posted on 10/25/2022 4:24:27 AM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: canuck_conservative

They are shipping oil east.


54 posted on 10/25/2022 4:27:32 AM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“To set an example for citizens to save money, official departments are reducing the temperature of heating in offices, turning off hot water, fountains and lifts”

German ministries have a new mission under the slogan “freeze for the people”
https://en.news-front.info/2022/10/23/german-ministries-have-a-new-mission-under-the-slogan-freeze-for-the-people/


55 posted on 10/25/2022 4:28:10 AM PDT by cranked
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To: WMarshal

Great description. I deal with those entitled asshats every day. Such arrogance and fecklessness.


56 posted on 10/25/2022 4:34:57 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: bitt

Nat Gas in the northeast is actually dropping. It would be lower if the pipelines were built. But heating with gas is going to be much less expensive than oil.


57 posted on 10/25/2022 6:18:01 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: SeekAndFind

You might as well publish articles about green solar power and how that’s going to fix everything.

What’s the ***PRICE*** of this gas when it hits the Euro market?

https://www.presseportal.de/pm/amp/73164/5136121

Germany (Europe’s largest economy) is in serious trouble while you’re talking crap.

Businesses are shutting down, limiting output, or relocating because of the high energy costs while you’re writing about how everything is OK and of course more “winning on all fronts” against the Russians.


58 posted on 10/25/2022 7:01:28 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6

RE: Businesses are shutting down, limiting output, or relocating because of the high energy costs while you’re writing about

You must be confused as to WHO the writer is. The author of this article is CLEARLY shown in the title of this thread. Direct your pronouns to him, not the poster


59 posted on 10/25/2022 7:08:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: bitt
***Meanwhile the Northeast is gonna freeze....***

IMPORTANT message to you in FReepmail! :^)

60 posted on 10/25/2022 2:51:33 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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