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Monument to Holodomor Victims of Stalin's Famine Removed by Russian occupiers in Mariupol {occupied Ukraine}
Moscow times ^ | 21 October 2022

Posted on 10/20/2022 8:58:36 PM PDT by Cronos

The Moscow-installed authorities of the port city of Mariupol, which fell to Russian forces after a devastating siege earlier in the year, took down a monument to Ukrainian victims of Stalin's famine on Wednesday.

Kyiv has been calling the 1930s man-made hunger under Josef Stalin a "genocide," while Moscow has been downplaying it as an episode of famine all over the Soviet Union.

The state-run RIA Novosti news agency published a video of a truck uprooting the monument in Mariupol.

"We are not taking out a memorial, we are getting rid of a symbol of the political disinformation of the population, particularly of our youth," local youth organization spokeswoman Evgenya Krotova told RIA Novosti.

Local university professor Olga Shmatshkova said it was best not to "remind people over and over about the scariest (times)."

"Let's make our motherland cleaner and more beautiful, we will still keep the memories of our problems in our souls," she told RIA Novosti.

Pro-Russian separatist authorities in the Donetsk region said on Telegram that the structure had been removed.

"The stone will be recycled into construction material," the administration said on Telegram.

The monument was made out of two blocs of granite topped by stalks of wheat and barbed wire.

It was dedicated to victims of Soviet-era political repression, executions and mass deportations that Moscow minimizes.

"Holodomor" — Ukrainian for "death by starvation" — is the 1932-1933 famine regarded by Kyiv as a deliberate act of genocide by Stalin.

It left thousands dead, according to estimates of historians.

Moscow rejects Kyiv's narrative, placing the events in the broader context of famines that devastated regions of Central Asia and Russia.

The city of Mariupol was captured by Russian troops in May after several weeks of shelling that left thousands of dead and the city destroyed.


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Artem Bobrovskyi, a henchman of the Russian invaders, Head of the Department of the Donetsk National University, with a PhD in Historical Science, claimed that there was no Holodomor [man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine from 1932 to 1933 which killed millions of Ukrainians - ed.] in Ukraine.
1 posted on 10/20/2022 8:58:36 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

“The stone will be recycled into construction material,” the administration said on Telegram.”

The Taliban did stuff like this.

L


2 posted on 10/20/2022 9:00:14 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Cronos

Putin is a Communist. No surprises here.


3 posted on 10/20/2022 9:05:02 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinions)
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To: Cronos

Better hope the Russians never get to Kyiv cause removing all them neo-Nazi Bandera, Shukhevych, and other ‘monuments’ is really going to upset some folks in Ukraine and within FR.......

“A series of letters, from the #Polish and #Israeli embassies in #Ukraine protesting the #Zelensky governments decision to pass laws commemorating #Nazis. They were sent only 2 years ago.”

https://nitter.net/BowesChay/status/1582690527316623360#m


4 posted on 10/20/2022 9:07:49 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Cronos

You’d think the bastards would be proud of their magnum opus.


5 posted on 10/20/2022 9:09:02 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: cranked

The Russians have a nazi dictator Putin.

A nazi regime has industry subordinated to the state, as in Putin’s Russia.

It has a dictator with a cult of personality around him, as in Putin’s Russia with his 22 year reign.

It has wars of occupation with its neighbours. That’s Putin’s Russia.

You Russians live in a nazi country.

And you failed to get to Kyiv in February when the odds were in your favour, now you’d be lucky to keep Donetsk city


6 posted on 10/20/2022 9:11:21 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Thunder90

Yes, but some supposed conservatives idolize him.


7 posted on 10/20/2022 9:12:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: NorthMountain

Russian history books teach them that they liberated central Europe.
They don’t mention that they initially allied with Hitler.
They don’t mention their occupation of the Baltics, Poland, Romania, Hungary etc.

So Russians are shocked when they go to Bucharest and aren’t called liberators


8 posted on 10/20/2022 9:13:55 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

“...declaring 2019 Stepan #Bandera year”

Nuff said.

You, get ZelenskyyIdiot and company in Kyiv to rectify their Constitution while they at it?

“....and to preserve the gene pool of the Ukrainian people....”

Straight from the Ukraine Constitution, Article 16.

“CONSTITUTION OF UKRAINE”
https://rm.coe.int/constitution-of-ukraine/168071f58b

Denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine continues on....


9 posted on 10/20/2022 9:14:47 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

That was announced by the Lviv regional council, not all of Ukraine, .

And Zelensky wasn’t even elected yet.

Tell your buds in the Kremlin that your Russian propaganda is getting more hysterically wrong


10 posted on 10/20/2022 9:31:14 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: cranked

12 posted on 10/20/2022 9:34:49 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

‘Ukraine’s neo-Nazi Azov Battalion attempts rebranding’
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/06/03/ykgh-j03.html

‘British Media ‘Whitewashing’ Ukrainian Neo-Nazis: UK Editor’
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/British-Media-Whitewashing-Ukrainian-Neo-Nazis-UK-Editor-20220530-0001.html

‘Ukraine’s Neo-Nazis
https://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/en/NewsDetail/index/6/21533/Ukraines-Neo-Nazis?infinitescroll=1

‘Jon Stewart, DOD Honor AZOV BATTALION NAZI At Disney World’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zoB_6c0cag

‘Adam Schiff meets with members of Ukraine’s neo-Nazi Azov Battalion’
https://www.worldtribune.com/adam-schiff-meets-with-members-of-ukraines-neo-nazi-azov-battalion/

‘Zelensky Speech With Nazi AZOV BATTALION Prompts Greek Lawmakers To WALK OUT’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0tAWaNEhU8

‘Ukrainian neo-Nazis dehumanize and mock fallen Russian soldiers’
https://www.weeklyblitz.net/opinion/ukrainian-neo-nazis-dehumanize-and-mock-fallen-russian-soldiers/

Start at the 4:58 mark-
‘RT News - Sep 19 2022’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtB_r5yazsg

‘The ideology of the Banderists’
https://www.voltairenet.org/article217363.html

“Ukronazi ‘good terrorists’ – a who’s who (infographic)”
http://thesaker.is/ukronazi-good-terrorists-a-whos-who-infographic/

‘The Presence of Neo-Nazis in Ukraine’
https://www.fairobserver.com/region/europe/medea-benjamin-nicolas-js-davies-ukraine-war-russia-ukranian-neo-nazi-fascists-azov-battalion-89292/

‘Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict’
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955

‘How to Mainstream Neo-Nazis: A Lesson from Ukraine’s New Government’
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2019/10/21/how-to-mainstream-neo-nazis-a-lesson-from-ukraines-new-government/

‘Ukrainian Militia Behind Brutal Romany Attacks Getting State Funds’
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukrainian-militia-behind-brutal-romany-attacks-getting-state-funds/29290844.html

“Russia reacts to Azov neo-Nazi’s platform at prestigious US university”
https://www.rt.com/russia/564642-azov-delegation-stanford-university/

“A series of letters, from the #Polish and #Israeli embassies in #Ukraine protesting the #Zelensky governments decision to pass laws commemorating #Nazis. They were sent only 2 years ago.”
https://nitter.net/BowesChay/status/1582690527316623360#m


13 posted on 10/20/2022 9:35:31 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Lurker

Yep. The Taliban, the BLM Marxists and Maoists, the former USSR, and Pootie Poot’s new USSR.


14 posted on 10/20/2022 9:40:17 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Cronos

I fail to understand why those in the areas in question who spoke Russian and wanted to be united with Russia, just didn’t MOVE TO RUSSIA AND LEAVE THE TRUE UKRANIANS ALONE.

Both have somewhat of a gripe, and both should find a solution that does NOT KILL AND MAIM.

They, BOTH SIDES, have an opportunity to make things right.

And it is more the feckless United Nations problem than ours.
But they will NOT settle it without more bucks from us.


15 posted on 10/20/2022 9:47:36 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: Cronos
Trapped Neo-Nazi Azov Regiment Allegedly Attacked Mariupol, Demand Conditions From Russian Army After Failing Siege

https://www.hngn.com/articles/241763/20220422/trapped-neo-nazi-azov-regiment-allegedly-attacked-mariupol-demand-conditions.htm

16 posted on 10/20/2022 10:00:12 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Cronos
It left thousands dead, according to estimates of historians.

Estimates are between 7 and 10 Million dead.

17 posted on 10/20/2022 10:07:02 PM PDT by bondjamesbond (Because, deep in my heart, I do believe, that we shall overcome some day.)
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To: Cronos
It left thousands dead, according to estimates of historians.

A joint statement to the United Nations signed by 25 countries in 2003 declared that 7–10 million died. However, current scholarship estimates a range significantly lower, with 3.5 to 5 million victims.

-Wikipedia

Regards,

18 posted on 10/20/2022 11:34:35 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Cronos

The pigs raped Ukraine twice.


19 posted on 10/21/2022 2:56:51 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: cranked

We really believe your crap.


20 posted on 10/21/2022 2:57:46 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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