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Daylight saving time 2022: U.S. Senate OK'd Sunshine Protection Act, but California will still fall back, for now
yahoo ^ | 10/10/2022

Posted on 10/10/2022 7:15:35 AM PDT by devane617

Love it or hate it, it's coming: The end of Daylight saving time.

Yes, you'll need to get ready to "fall back." At 2 a.m. Pacific time on Sunday, Nov. 6, California residents will have to set their clocks back by one hour. That's happening again, even though in 2018, California voters overwhelmingly approved Proposition 7, a ballot initiative that opened the door to permanently adopting daylight saving time.

Prop. 7 gave state lawmakers the power to pass legislation making daylight saving time permanent. Less than a month later, Assemblyman Kansen Chu introduced AB 7, the Daylight Saving Time law Prop. 7 enabled, but the Legislature never passed it.

Even if they had, the federal government would still need to OK the change.

This year, the U.S. Senate unanimously approved a bill called the Sunshine Protection Act, which was introduced by Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Florida. The bill would permanently extend daylight saving time from eight months of the year to the full 12 months. But the measure has not yet been passed by the U.S. House of Representatives, nor has it been signed into law by President Joe Biden.

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To: devane617

Our schools are also still geared to farmers.

Government is incapable of keeping up with society, but tries to bend it towards its will anyway.


61 posted on 10/10/2022 8:03:19 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: devane617

I thought the main reason for keeping DST is to ensure it is light out when the kiddies are waiting for a school bus.


62 posted on 10/10/2022 8:04:38 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("There should have been an age and risk stratification approach." still true)
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To: cuban leaf

I agree...GMT is the right way to go. Either way...you only get so many hours of daylight. Playing with the clock changes nothing. It’s just being “stuck on stupid”.


63 posted on 10/10/2022 8:04:41 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: EEGator

Thanks.


64 posted on 10/10/2022 8:05:38 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: Jeff Chandler
Couldn't they change the school starting time as needed?

That might disrupt a ton of parents who set their work schedule to accommodate their kids' school schedule. Or other sorts of sudden scheduling conflicts.

I feel like it IS kinda silly though to have 13 year old kids standing out at bus stops at 6:15am regardless of how light or dark it is.

Without thinking too much about it, I'd probably like to see schools go from 9AM - 4PM with busses picking up not much earlier than 8AM and dropping off not much later than 5PM.
65 posted on 10/10/2022 8:09:34 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Dr. Sivana
Was just down there judging a retriever hunting test in Phenix City (the Wickedest Little City in America).

Everybody in AL refers to it as "River Time." Both banks of the Chattahoochee all the way down to Eufaula.

66 posted on 10/10/2022 8:13:40 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: adorno

On a thread full of good jibes, yours is the best.


67 posted on 10/10/2022 8:15:52 AM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: Paladin2
Floriduh has a totally different daylight pattern over the year compared to Washington State.

Yes, in Seattle Sunset is around 4:15 all through December. It is extremely irritating. Of course, the poor devils living up in Juneau have sunset a little after 3:00 in December. In Miami sunset is around 5:30 all though December so it isn't that much of a hassle. The further North you go the more standard time becomes a nuisance in the winter.

If we are going to have standard time and daylight savings time it, it would make more sense for the clocks to be changed in the opposite direction. Sunset would be at 6:15 PM in Seattle in winter... for more preferable than 4:15. The potheads who live around here don't get up until after 9:45 AM so they wouldn't even notice that the sun was rising another hour later.

It is a mystery to me why Little Marco is the one leading the charge on this when the South is not affected as much as the North by this twice a year nonsense.

68 posted on 10/10/2022 8:17:46 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: SamAdams76

I like the changing of the clocks for the same reasons you state.


69 posted on 10/10/2022 8:19:29 AM PDT by stevio
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To: erlayman
Why should we get an extra hour in the summer?

Good question.

One advantage of daylight savings is I have until 9:00 pm in the summer to finish mowing the yard. One disadvantage of returning to regular time is I now have to mow the yard as fast as I could soon as I got home from work, knowing it's going to be dark soon...

As a pre-teenager, one year in the fall, I changed the clocks before my folks woke up. Unfortunately, I erred and changed them to one hour ahead instead of one hour back. When they woke up, all the clocks were wrong by TWO hours.

70 posted on 10/10/2022 8:20:52 AM PDT by Deaf and Discerning (Spring ahead, Fall back)
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To: devane617
"DST" should stand for Daylight Shifting Time, since the change in the clock time simply shifts the daylight time from the morning to the evening hours heading toward the summer and then back again as the U.S. heads toward the winter. There is no "saving time"; you don't even earn any interest when you get the standard time back.

At 40 deg latitude, approximately the middle of the continental U.S., the width of each time zone is approximately 800 miles (the width is a little more for southern latitudes and a little less for northern latitudes). Areas along the western edge of their time zone will see more daylight later into the evening during DST, and areas along the eastern edge of their time zone will see daylight sooner in the morning during standard time.

Nowadays adjusting the clock twice a year is a compromised solution to providing daylight hours to morning commuters and school children as well as evening daylight hours to workers going home in the evening, and enjoying being outdoors more in the summer.

DST is not as needed the closer one gets to the equator (Hawaii, most of Arizona, Puerto Rico, the US Virgin Islands, Northern Mariana Islands, Guam, and American Samoa do not use DST), and becomes meaningless the closer you get to the poles. Alaska, with its two time zones, still uses DST, even though parts of the state have daylight all day in some of the summer and no daylight in some of the winter.

If you want to cast blame, it's because of the 23 deg tilt of the Earth's axis as it orbits the Sun. Of course, without that 23 deg tilt, life on Earth might not be possible.

71 posted on 10/10/2022 8:27:06 AM PDT by Carl Vehse (A proud member of the LGBFJB community)
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To: EEGator

It never really had anything to do with farmers. I have no doubt that it was used as a reasoning to convince urbanites that they were somehow helping rurals but it was never true. Animals cant read a clock but they know what the time really is regardless of what government says and get pissed off when things dont happen on schedule. When it was time for haying you got up in time to be out in the field when the sun was coming up and the day was done after it was too dark to see. They could have set the time to anything they wanted because the clock had nothing to with anything.


72 posted on 10/10/2022 8:27:46 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: EEGator

http://www.webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/g.html


73 posted on 10/10/2022 8:30:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: gnarledmaw

Well, then I don’t know. Ask Benjamin Franklin...


74 posted on 10/10/2022 8:35:05 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Paladin2

True. FL has two time zones, Eastern and Central.

The folks in the Panhandle are always a step behind... /S


75 posted on 10/10/2022 8:35:48 AM PDT by Afterguard (Deplorable me! )
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To: Vigilanteman

Right now - Kabul AFGH is 8.5 hours different from EDT.

It is ~ 8:20 p.m. there...


76 posted on 10/10/2022 8:49:54 AM PDT by dakine
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To: devane617

I’m for DST all year around. Pretending to save daylight serves no purpose.


77 posted on 10/10/2022 9:04:36 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The media is the enemy. They are the most subversive institution on the planet. )
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To: devane617

We tried this once before and people were complaining that their children were waiting on the bus when it was still dark outside, posing a danger to the children.


78 posted on 10/10/2022 9:06:26 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: Round Earther

While technically true if you don’t change your clock life gets a little confusing as literally everything around you will be an hour “behind” you. But sure, you can leave your clock as is.


79 posted on 10/10/2022 9:08:31 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Jeff Chandler; Alberta's Child

The bus argument was never valid either.

This far North, and Alberta is farther North than I am, the daylight is less than 9 hours. Unless you happen to live next to the bus stop, not all kids are picked up and dropped at home, and are one of the first on/off then its dark when you head out in the morning and dark when you get home.

For example, my little brother and I had over an hour bus ride in and back so we had to be at the stop before 7 and got back after 4 and that didnt include the walking blocks to/from the stop or add extra buffer time to account for roads/storms that made the departure and arrival irregular.

Dark when we left and dark when we got home. Twiddling with the clock one way or the other only makes the problem worse at the other end of the day.


80 posted on 10/10/2022 9:13:34 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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