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Democrats cover for IRS destruction of 30 million taxpayer filings
Washington Examiner ^ | Oct 7, 2022

Posted on 10/07/2022 10:10:53 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

If ordinary taxpayers fail to file returns, congressional Democrats hire 87,000 new IRS agents to punish them. Yet if the IRS destroys 30 million “tax information” returns without even processing, those Democrats actively block attempts to demand an explanation.

Apparently, Democrats think transparency is unnecessary for tax collectors for the welfare state.

For those who missed the original story, some background is in order, especially to understand how astonishingly brazen the Democrats are in refusing to hold the IRS accountable. On May 22, the treasury inspector general for tax administration reported that the IRS deliberately destroyed 30 million returns in 2021 so as to relieve a backlog of paper documents in anticipation of a flood of new filings. The agency cited software limitations as an excuse.

The decision was met with widespread incredulity. “How can the agency ask taxpayers to meet their filing obligations for information returns when it cavalierly destroys duly filed documents?” asked Nina Olson, former national taxpayer advocate. Brian Streig, a certified public accountant for Calhoun, Thomson + Matza, LLP, added that “small businesses stress out every year in January trying to accurately prepare these informational returns and get them filed on time. To see the IRS just destroy these is almost like the IRS admitting they don’t really care.”........

Then, if you innocently file an incorrect return, the IRS can penalize you, sometimes severely — but if the IRS doesn’t want to actually bother with documents it requires people to file, it can destroy them without even processing them.

And then refuse to provide justification for its decision.

That’s how progressive Democrats roll these days: The rulers answer to nobody, but they pick your pockets clean.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1040; incometax; irs; taxes
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So if the IRS destroys your return will they then prosecute you for failing to file?
1 posted on 10/07/2022 10:10:53 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

This is the first I have ever heard about it.
I would have expected at least somebody like Rand Paul, Ted Cruz or Mike Lee to have been making some noise about it.


2 posted on 10/07/2022 10:28:18 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The IRS is getting smarter—and more desperate. A few years ago they were caught stuffing thousands of unprocessed tax returns into their service center drop ceiling because they couldn’t keep up. Now they destroy them—nothing left to process.


3 posted on 10/07/2022 10:28:56 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“I see you have some money. Give it to me.”


4 posted on 10/07/2022 10:32:30 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Fox News is CNN-Lite.)
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To: Auntie Dem

Maybe the thing to do is send the IRS via USPS a tracked package of black paper, print the delivery receipt, then claim the IRS destroyed your return if the IRS ever comes after you.


5 posted on 10/07/2022 10:40:25 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

With the obvious two tiered system of injustice we now have it should be clear that the IRS is going to be used to repress Republicans. Lots of Republicans requires lots of tyrants to get them.


6 posted on 10/07/2022 10:42:20 PM PDT by Nateman (If Mohammad was not the Anti Christ he definitely comes in as a strong second..)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Deja-Vue!
I remember when several ATF workers did the same thing with NFA forms.
The miscreants were “Transferred to less stressful duties”.
No one was punished in any way.

The same result will be seen here.


7 posted on 10/07/2022 10:44:10 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Free thinking is now a radical concept, I will not be assimilated by PC or EV groupthink!)
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To: lee martell

Subcommittee on Taxation and IRS Oversight

Minority Members (8)

Thune, John (SD), Ranking Member
Grassley, Chuck (IA)
Cornyn, John (TX)
Burr, Richard (NC)
Portman, Rob (OH)
Toomey, Patrick J. (PA)
Sasse, Ben (NE)
Crapo, Mike (ID), Ex Officio


8 posted on 10/07/2022 10:44:24 PM PDT by Mr. N. Wolfe
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To: Mr. N. Wolfe

That list looks like for a RINO Convention.


9 posted on 10/07/2022 10:46:40 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

You’ve been FReeping fewer than 10 years. Don’t you know that FReepers HATE Ted Cruz? “Lyin’ Ted” and such.


10 posted on 10/07/2022 10:50:01 PM PDT by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The swamp wants to bury us all.


11 posted on 10/07/2022 11:07:53 PM PDT by Bullish (Rot'sa Ruck America. )
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To: Auntie Dem

They have software limitations, so they destroy 30,000,000 paper tax filings? In what universe does that make sense?


12 posted on 10/07/2022 11:12:05 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Theo

I’m aware that Ted is not favored by the majority here but I say, so what?
Not all of us conservatives think exactly alike. There are many winding roads that lead to the same destination.


13 posted on 10/07/2022 11:31:26 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

How many years back?
2020, 2019, 2018 etc. What if you did not file say 2018, would the IRS know one way or another as records are destroyed.
Do they know what records were destroyed?

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The IRS responded the 30 million destroyed returns were only 1 percent of the total information returns filed, and they were destroyed due to a software limitation and to make room for 2021 tax filing season documents.

The IRS also claims “[t]here were no negative taxpayer consequences as a result of this action,” and taxpayers will not be subject to penalties resulting from the IRS’s actions. Perhaps there were no negative consequences for those whose documents were destroyed, and maybe even some benefit if they underreported income.
https://www.crapo.senate.gov/news/in-the-news/weekly-column-why-did-the-irs-destroy-30-million-paper-returns


14 posted on 10/07/2022 11:35:02 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

No.

If you’ve filed, you have records you’ve filed. You also have treasury check info or checks to the irs through your bank.


15 posted on 10/07/2022 11:35:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

National Sales Tax....everyone would contribute something.

Get rid of everything other tax.


16 posted on 10/07/2022 11:35:42 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: lee martell

“I’m aware that Ted is not favored by the majority here “

Other than having another cold beer I can’t get my Army buddies to agree 100% of the time. But generally we agree.

As far as Ted, he really has his moments. Got to support him on that.

Now Trump, I fully support him even though he likes to borrow until the verge of bankruptcy.


17 posted on 10/07/2022 11:44:23 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

so question: if there are so many they can’t even process them, why are we being forced to file them?


19 posted on 10/08/2022 12:13:41 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: Nateman
With the obvious two tiered system of injustice we now have it should be clear that the IRS is going to be used to repress Republicans. Lots of Republicans requires lots of tyrants to get them.

And how many Dems and big money Dem contributors had their tax returns destroyed? That is more than just only targeting Republicans and MAGA. It's a way to hide that some people are above the law. Want to bet Faucci's return got destroyed?
20 posted on 10/08/2022 12:17:31 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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