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Russia lacks manpower to stop Ukrainian advance in Luhansk, says correspondent embedded with Russian military
CNN.com ^ | October 5, 2022 | Mick Krever

Posted on 10/05/2022 4:53:38 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

The Russian military lacks the manpower necessary to hold of a further Ukrainian advance into the Luhansk region, a correspondent embedded with the Russian military in the occupied city of Svatove said on Tuesday evening.

“The Russian troops do not have enough manpower to stop the enemy attacks,” Alexander Kots, for Russian pro-government tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda said in a video posted to Telegram. “The recent Russian losses are directly connected to that. It’s a very difficult period of time on the front line at the moment.”

He said that “we expect a serious fighting here very soon,” and that “it remains to be seen if it could stop the enemy advances.”

Kots confirmed that Russian forces were trying to fortify their defense at the line connecting the occupied cities of Kreminna and Svatova. Yuriy Podolyaka, a pro-Russian military blogger said on Monday that Russian troops had withdrawn to the Zherebets River, which runs just west of Kreminna and Svatova.

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To: Travis McGee

so the russians see their true border as being the border with poland?

The only winners in this war are the chinese.


81 posted on 10/05/2022 6:25:59 AM PDT by ckilmer (qui)
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To: cranked

If they have only lost that number then why are they being pushed back?


82 posted on 10/05/2022 6:29:55 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz

Russians been doing such from the start of this war/conflict.

‘The Limits of Ukraine’s Offensive and the High Price to Pay When it Ends’ (Might have to start from beginning where mention is made of such a Russian move)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pONjlORXdFQ


83 posted on 10/05/2022 6:32:17 AM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

Still trying to troll?
How much do they pay you?


84 posted on 10/05/2022 6:33:30 AM PDT by AZJeep
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To: AZJeep

Thank you for your valued contribution to his thread.


85 posted on 10/05/2022 6:34:00 AM PDT by cranked
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To: ckilmer

The Chinese are irrelevant

China is in The midst of economic catastrophe as their economy s struggles with infinite public and private debt

No, we do not have a problem of that magnitude


86 posted on 10/05/2022 6:35:09 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: Timber Rattler

I watched a YouTube video by Estonian Artur Rehi which reported Russian conscripts being without uniforms due to the theft and graft of the “leaders” in the Russian military.

They asked them to bring their own hunting camo and gear.


87 posted on 10/05/2022 6:42:04 AM PDT by Vaden (Real conservatives will not allow our wagon to be hitched to fascist Russia)
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To: usconservative

Mea culpa.
I thought you were being a smart ass.
I’m a smart ass so often that I assume others are too.


88 posted on 10/05/2022 6:46:10 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: lodi90
The Ukrainians suffered under Stalin worse than any other nationality. The Holodomor was their equivalent to the Holocaust. Imagine if somehow a neo-Nazi government arose in Germany and that government decided to attack Israel. The Israelis would fight to the death. The Ukrainians are similarly motivated in real life. I suspect Putin did not realize the ferocity of their resistance. Ditto for his CCP financiers.
89 posted on 10/05/2022 6:49:03 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: EEGator
No worries. I understand why you thought I was being a smartass.

I joke about a lot of things, life & death and war aren't one of them though.

90 posted on 10/05/2022 6:53:59 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Rokke

Reality isn’t part of the Putinist language.


91 posted on 10/05/2022 6:58:19 AM PDT by Vaden (Real conservatives will not allow our wagon to be hitched to fascist Russia)
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To: ScottinVA

Yes it is and I wish it were different. We are being propagandized with DI IW tactics.


92 posted on 10/05/2022 7:01:48 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: cranked
Untrained/poorly trained troops can occasionally do a decent job of defending a fixed position if their flanks are secure, they have some better trained units supporting them, their lines are continuous and dense, and they have good supporting arms etc.. So that is a possible use for these recently mobilized troops.

But if we're talking any kind of mobile/mechanized war, they're useless defensively. And offensively, they're just useless period unless employed in true human wave/overwhelming numbers, and this isn't nearly enough for that.

So that is the problem the Russians face. The total length of the front - especially when you consider Kherson and Zaporizhzhia oblasts - is far too long to have the kind of dense, continuous front those troops may be able to defend successfully. There were literally millions if troops covering the same length frontages in WW2.

So maybe sticking them in trenchlines in Donbass can work, or defending the Crimean peninsula proper. But otherwise, they'll be speed bumps, and that's about it.

93 posted on 10/05/2022 7:09:27 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Of course they can.

500+ militia - MILITIA - held off 6-9+ thousand of Ukrainian forces for nearly two weeks causing huge causalities and kills upon the Ukrainians before withdrawing.


94 posted on 10/05/2022 7:11:30 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Timber Rattler

Getting verifiable information about this war is almost impossible.

My impression is that the most important factor so far has been USA truck launched long range missile artillery.

The Ukrainians can fire a 500 pound warhead up to 140 miles and strike within a five foot radius of accuracy. The missile artillery is very hard to shoot down, and the missile trucks are moving to a new location within 60 seconds of launch, which means return fire is almost impossible.

Bottom Line - the Russians cannot concentrate their troops or their equipment because of missile artillery, which means they have almost no offensive capability.

Does anyone else have this same impression, or are there other factors at work?


95 posted on 10/05/2022 7:21:36 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: TermLimits4All
...we (the US) will make a wrong move eventually and it’ll (a World War) be on.

I agree. But it doesn't necessarily have to be the USA or West that makes "The Wrong Move." Putin is flirting with the idea of a tactical nuclear strike. If that happens the responsibility for what comes after is all on him.

96 posted on 10/05/2022 7:26:05 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Timber Rattler
https://sonar21.com/what-do-you-make-of-russias-strategy-in-ukraine/

Let me start with Captain Obvious–Russia is grudgingly giving up territory in Kharkov, Donetsk and Kherson, but is avoiding set piece battles. What do I mean? Consider what happened at Liman, for example. Five hundred Russian allied troops help off over 6000 Ukrainians for more than a week and then conducted a tactical retreat. It is true that Ukraine has deployed more forces to these areas than the Russians. But Russia, through its superior fire power with artillery and combat air, slows these attacks and inflicts heavy casualties on the Ukrainians in terms of men and equipment. At the same time, Russia is suffering minimal casualties. This certainly is a break with the sad tradition Soviet troops established in World War II. Millions of Soviet soldiers were killed and wounded in the battles of Kursk and Bagration, for example. Conserving force was not a priority then, but it is now.

The United States and NATO are having a field day with these events, touting these successes as “proof” that Russian troops are poorly led, poorly supplied and lacking motivation. But that is having little effect in rallying public support in the United States and Europe. That lackluster support among the general populace will fade even more in the coming months as inflation, unemployment and recession escalate in those nations. Ukraine capturing a city that most Americans cannot spell is not a recipe for whipping up public support among Americans for sending more billions of dollars to Kiev while prices at home soar and the economy grinds to a halt.

Ukraine’s so-called victories are illusory. Yes, they are occupying territory once held by Russia but they are doing so without the benefit of air support and minimal artillery fires. Ukraine is relying on attacking lightly manned Russian positions with a larger force. This comes at a great cost however, in the loss of men and material that Ukraine cannot easily nor quickly replace. Every country in a war suffers casualties. This means a country at war must have a system in place to call up reserves, train them, equip them and deploy them. Ukraine is outnumbered dramatically by Russia on this count. If (or when) the “Special Military Operation” is finally acknowledged as a war by Russia’s leaders, Putin and his generals have far greater human resources at their command. The current Russian special mobilization is calling back to duty experienced soldiers.

Ukraine does not have a secure training facility where it can assemble and train new recruits because Russia has demonstrated repeatedly over the last 7 months the ability and willingness to attack and destroy those centers. That means Ukraine must rely on one or more NATO countries to host a training base. Even with a secure training base someplace in Europe, new Ukrainian recruits will need a minimum of three months of instruction before they are minimally prepared to go to the front to replace lost personnel. I do not believe that Europe has the capability or the will to host 200,000 new Ukrainian recruits. In short, Ukraine has no real chance of replacing the troops already lost in the front lines.

The training requirements for the Russian reservists called back to duty is far less daunting. The Russian soldiers already know how to wear a uniform, march in formation, maneuver as a unit, clean and operate their weapons, and communicate within a chain of command.

The biggest disadvantage for Ukraine is its lack of an economic base to fund the war and to produce the weapons, vehicles, food and medical supplies required to sustain an army in the field. Ukraine is now entirely dependent on the United States and NATO. Those lines of communication must remain open and flowing. Otherwise, their soldiers will be left defenseless in the field.

Russia, by contrast, has a robust economy that is producing all that its army and air force requires to operate. Its factories are operating 24-7 and it is quite competent, despite western propaganda stating otherwise, to move needed troops, tanks, munitions and vehicles to the front.

The west is betting all on the belief that Russia–its leaders, its government bureaucracy and its economy–is a paper tiger that will crumble if only enough pressure is applied. That is a dangerous and risky wager. While Russia is not a utopia, it has invested its capital over the last 20 years in building up its infrastructure, developing modern, cost effective weapons systems and educating its population to a standard that surpasses anything offered by the United States or Europe. Most importantly, it has vast natural resources and minerals and the industrial capability to extract them and manufacture what it needs to fight.

The United States, by contrast, has burned up billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars in fruitless military adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan while American infrastructure deteriorates, its industrial capacity is hollowed out, it is dependent on foreign imports of critical materials to produce key weapon systems and its educational system is in shambles. More time is devoted in U.S. schools, it appears, to learning proper pronouns rather than learning math, biology, chemistry, physics and foreign languages. The recently announced failure of the U.S. Army to meet its recruitment goals (25% below the target) is not an aberration. It is a symptom of societal failure in the west.

So what is Russia waiting for? On paper, it has the full capability to crush Ukraine. I am certain that the events of the last seven months have convinced the Russian leaders and civilians that they face an existential crisis from the west. I believe that Putin’s decision to return the four Ukrainian oblasts to the Russian Federation was not made in desperation. Putin, so far, has shown no sign of panic or alarm. I have seen no evidence to suggest that he is out of touch with reality. Instead, he has worked methodically to shore up relations with China, India and the Gulf States. He realizes he can no longer rely on any hope of a working relationship with the United States and Europe. it appears that the referenda process, which culminated on Tuesday with the acceptance of Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporhyzhia as new members of the Russian Federation, now paves the way for Russia to invoke the defense protocols of the CSTO. That means additional troops from allied countries like Belarusia can join the fight if needed.

It very much reminds me of a game of chess. Russia is now sacrificing pawns in the form of strategically useless territory, while Ukraine is rushing forward to seize symbolic territory without having the necessary reserves in terms of trained soldiers and equipment to sustain the attack and defeat Russia. Russia, meanwhile, is moving its Knights, Rooks and Bishops into position for checkmate. The question remains–what is Putin’s gambit?

97 posted on 10/05/2022 7:35:59 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Cathi
Ukronazis move all their air defense to Liman, entire attack flotilla of Russian/Iranian bomb drones arrives at a major target unmolested (priorities...)


98 posted on 10/05/2022 7:37:20 AM PDT by ganeemead
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To: Timber Rattler

Not big on keeping up with the news, are ya??


99 posted on 10/05/2022 7:38:55 AM PDT by ganeemead
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To: ganeemead

Iran isn’t going to save Russia. LMAO. How desperate Putinland has become.


100 posted on 10/05/2022 7:44:48 AM PDT by lodi90
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