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Putin deposed, Russia broken up, and NATO in a face-off with China: As Ukraine sees a path toward victory and a desperate Vladimir hits the panic button
MAILONLINE ^ | 4 October 2022 | CHRIS PLEASANCE

Posted on 10/04/2022 5:08:38 AM PDT by dennisw

Expert argues THIS is how the war could end

Putin has spent the last week ramping up his war in Ukraine, from 300,000 conscripts to nuclear threats But his bluster is aimed at hiding the fact that Russia is losing the war, as Ukraine recaptures territory

Alp Sevimlisoy, of Atlantic Council think-tank == about what Russian defeat could look like Putin would not survive the defeat, he argues, while Russia itself could break up leaving the West competing with China over the spoils and NATO in a face-off with Beijing

Land grabs, hundreds of thousand of conscripts thrown on to the front lines, and a nuke for anyone who dares stand in his way: Vladimir Putin has spent the past week doubling down on his war in Ukraine.

But his bluster belies a simple fact: Russia is losing the war, and he knows it.

The despot is desperate. His army is in tatters, his battleplans shot, he's burning through his cash reserves at an unsustainable rate, and winter is looming. Meanwhile Ukraine's army continues to advance across the country, giving Kyiv a viable path to victory.

According to Alp Sevimlisoy - millennium fellow at think-tank Atlantic Council - that would mean Putin being deposed, Russia itself breaking apart, and NATO in a face-off with China over the spoils.

The West must begin preparing for that eventuality now, he adds, otherwise it will open the door for Beijing to muscle into regions such as Siberia, central Asia, Africa and South America where it already has toe-holds but will see opportunities as Russian power fades.

'We have to move into vacuums, seek to exert influence, and then we have to face up to the People's Republic of China. China is a globally-connected superpower, and we have to combat them effectively,' he said.

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To: TexasFreeper2009

As much as I despise Putin and hope he’s taken out, I’m not sure I agree with dismembering Russia, if only because there needs to be some form of buffer vs. China.


41 posted on 10/04/2022 5:39:37 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Slava Ukraini!)
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To: dennisw

Only China has a big enough army to garrison a significant part of Russia.

In the rest of the country, it will be White Army versus Red Army or more likely an assortment of armies controlled by various factions and warlords, i.e. the usual situation for failed states — a nuclear Somalia.


42 posted on 10/04/2022 5:39:47 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: MinorityRepublican
Kadyrov has an army.

Kadyrov's forces only do these things...

Film tictok videos
Steal from everyone, including Russian troops
Shoot and capture fleeing Russian troops
take goats into dugouts

All of these well behind the front lines.

43 posted on 10/04/2022 5:40:18 AM PDT by Brellium (The environment is of upmost importance, without trees where will we hang Moscovites?)
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To: oblomov

I agree with Tucker. We’re at war, we just haven’t been told yet.

We are now almost bragging about blowing up the pipeline. What will Russia blow up in return?


44 posted on 10/04/2022 5:40:56 AM PDT by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: dennisw

Russia broken up? And China moves its massive population into The Peoples Republic of China’s newly annexed territory.


45 posted on 10/04/2022 5:41:38 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: ScottinVA

India is the buffer to China


46 posted on 10/04/2022 5:41:50 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: SmokingJoe

The Daily Mail has been quite popular here over the years for posting stories the US MSM wont touch. It was always one of the go-to sources of conservative journalism, in the same category as the NY Post.

But now you consign it to hell for opposing you on the single matter of Ukraine.


47 posted on 10/04/2022 5:42:20 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: dennisw

“Russia is losing the war” and “winter is coming” are historically not associated with Russian defeat.


48 posted on 10/04/2022 5:43:28 AM PDT by TooBusy
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To: Brellium
Chechen Fighters Executed Russian Troops Who Rebelled in Ukraine, Official Says
49 posted on 10/04/2022 5:46:33 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: buwaya

The Daily Mail has been totally garbage on Ukraine, President Trump and plenty of other matters.


50 posted on 10/04/2022 5:46:57 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: TexasFreeper2009
The panic button Kaputin hits, if he can reach it, is the nuclear button and it's the world not the war that will end.

You are right about one thing, break up Russia and you will be taking all of Russia's nuclear weapons, post launch.

51 posted on 10/04/2022 5:48:03 AM PDT by hflynn ( )
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Part of it, yes.

Believe me, I despise Russia as much as you; just not seeing how dismembering it doesn’t empower the Chinese, who share a 4,000-mile border.


52 posted on 10/04/2022 5:51:04 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Slava Ukraini!)
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To: BobL

His policies. He was KGB and still is. Russia is still as it was. Don’t kid yourself

He ain’t no Christian good guy


53 posted on 10/04/2022 5:52:13 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: dennisw

We will never see the end. We won’t make it that far.


54 posted on 10/04/2022 5:53:05 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: oblomov

Free Republic seems to be morphing into a clearing house for the cabal’s forever war department bs. Sad.


55 posted on 10/04/2022 5:53:49 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: buwaya

Daily Mail is only good for photos. The content is usually slanted and biased baloney.


56 posted on 10/04/2022 5:55:04 AM PDT by dforest
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Help if you can
57 posted on 10/04/2022 5:55:37 AM PDT by deport
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To: dennisw

UK Daily Tabloid strikes again.


58 posted on 10/04/2022 5:55:52 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: dennisw
anti-globohomo Freepers

As opposed to the globohomo Freepers???? We know that is a thing, and we are astounded that anyone who claims to uphold the US constitution backs the WEF/UN/EU bureaucrat/US deepstate neocons.

Thank goodness the metaverse and real world haven't merged yet because we would have a live shooting war right here.

59 posted on 10/04/2022 5:56:16 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: dennisw

Just imagine a world where Iran mula’s are thrown out, Kim in North Korea is swinging from a bridge and the North is united with the south in a de-nuclearized democracy, and Russia is broken up into a dozen pieces, and also de-nuclearized.

That would basically be the world peace those pageant contestants have been wanting for decades!

Then the entire world could turn it’s attention to ridding the world of lie of socialism through the ballot box.


60 posted on 10/04/2022 6:02:02 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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