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People are worried about bond market liquidity
/www.axios.com ^ | 9/28/2022 | Neil Irwin

Posted on 10/02/2022 12:36:49 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

The market for government debt of big, rich countries like the United States and United Kingdom is, famously, supposed to be the deepest and most liquid on earth. They are the bedrock of the world financial system; bond prices aren't supposed to bounce around like a penny stock.

That hasn't really applied in recent days, particularly in Britain. Bond prices are careening around wildly, in ways that indicate serious strains in the global financial system. Why it matters: Government debt markets are showing signs of the kinds of turbulence and lack of liquidity that, should it persist, will make all financial assets more volatile and make a looming economic downturn worse.

It's painful enough when interest rates rise because the Federal Reserve or Bank of England hikes them to fight inflation. It's all the worse if they rise beyond the point justified by those fundamentals. The sense of panic in the market and a lack of liquidity have undermined the desire or ability to buy bonds recently, even at attractive prices. Driving the news: The BoE announced Wednesday morning it will buy long-term government debt on whatever scale necessary to "restore orderly market functioning." It also delayed the start of its quantitative tightening program meant to unwind securities acquired in its pandemic stimulus.

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KEYWORDS: bank; inflation; run
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1 posted on 10/02/2022 12:36:49 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19
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To: RomanSoldier19

Liquidity crisis. 2008. Very bad.


2 posted on 10/02/2022 12:42:35 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (America -- July 4, 1776 to November 3, 2020 -- R.I.P.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Usually, bonds are a safe refuge when the equity markets crater. We have both catering this time for the first time since most can remember.

People that follow this activity closely say we are headed to something worse than 2008-2009.


3 posted on 10/02/2022 12:44:19 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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4 posted on 10/02/2022 12:45:32 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19 (Res ad Triarios venit)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Yet another reason to be ending the war in Ukraine. Let Trump negotiate a peace as he offered. Staving off financial catastrophe requires cooperation among countries, not turmoil- especially among the great powers.


5 posted on 10/02/2022 12:55:02 PM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: Hostage

We currently have the equity market tanking while we have severe inflation (which damages the bond market).

Everything is going south at the same time.


6 posted on 10/02/2022 12:57:46 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

‘Liquidity crisis’ seems to me a convenient way of disguising the underlying fact that crazy energy costs are what’s really the cause. Politicians and bureaucrats love avoiding responsibility for their actions.


7 posted on 10/02/2022 12:59:01 PM PDT by Track9 (You are far too inquisitive not to be seduced…)
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To: SauronOfMordor
There is no shelter in this financial downturn caused by the Democrats and the puppet government in the White House.

Stocks are down. Bonds are down. Precious metals are down. Real estate is down. You can't even convert to cash because inflation will eat away at that.

Stolen elections have consequences. We are reaping the whirlwind of the stolen 2020 election. This never would have happened under Trump.

8 posted on 10/02/2022 1:02:48 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (4,131,872 active user on Truth Social)
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To: RomanSoldier19

All this market and supply chain issues most likely due to COVIDism and the lockdowns the elitist idiots in charge did to their countries and the world.


9 posted on 10/02/2022 1:12:32 PM PDT by consult
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To: RomanSoldier19

When central banks (e.g., BOE) start to panic, it’s ok if the rest of us panic, too, right?!


10 posted on 10/02/2022 1:22:54 PM PDT by BuchananBrigadeTrumpFan (If in doubt, it's probably sarcasm)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Cash is king even with 9% inflation coz stocks are cratering faster than 9%.


11 posted on 10/02/2022 1:34:06 PM PDT by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: BuchananBrigadeTrumpFan

Yes, I am getting ready to jump out of my basement window.


12 posted on 10/02/2022 1:35:22 PM PDT by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: entropy12

Can you record it please?


13 posted on 10/02/2022 1:45:42 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: RomanSoldier19

Look for the Federal Reserve to pivot and follow the Bank of England.


14 posted on 10/02/2022 1:51:02 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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they cant yet


15 posted on 10/02/2022 2:07:25 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19 (Res ad Triarios venit)
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To: RomanSoldier19

There were reports from the British press that the bank was trying to prevent runs on some pension funds.


Why a run on pension funds? A good friend of mine who trades bonds on Wall Street told me that, in many European countries, pension funds are mandated to have between 60-80% of their portfolio in Government bonds.


16 posted on 10/02/2022 2:39:37 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: SamAdams76

Stolen elections have consequences. We are reaping the whirlwind of the stolen 2020 election. This never would have happened under Trump.


Actually, it might have. Trump was spending like a drunken sailor too. But it was nominally due to the Covid lockdown and, unlike Biden, he was keeping us energy independent.

The real problem here is deficit spending and the way it’s been financed: by keeping interest rates close to zero. If the Central Banks lose control of interest rates, then many Governments will default. Likewise, the banks, pension funds and mutual fund that own lots of that government debt will go bust. Many companies and people will also not be able to pay the resulting sky high interest rates. It will be like the 2008 Financial crisis X 10.

A good analogy would be sweeping all the dirt under the carpet for decades, and now the carpet is the size of Mount Everest.


17 posted on 10/02/2022 2:45:24 PM PDT by rbg81
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You can bet that for a while the Biden Administration will print $$ and give it away to their preferred minority constituencies. That will deaden the pain for a little while longer, but the inevitable hangover will be that much worse.


18 posted on 10/02/2022 2:47:32 PM PDT by rbg81
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Actually, it might have. Trump was spending like a drunken sailor too.

No way TDS boy.

19 posted on 10/02/2022 2:47:42 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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Rand Paul was the only politician calling for fiscal discipline


20 posted on 10/02/2022 3:07:22 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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