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Did the US (or its agents) blow up the Nordstream pipelines? Thanks to an open threat issued by President Biden, the question must be asked
American Thinker ^ | 9/28/2022 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 09/28/2022 9:15:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Thanks to an open threat issued by President Biden, the question must be asked: is the United States behind the two explosions that caused a massive natural gas leak into the Baltic Sea? The incident has cut off Russia's ability to deliver methane gas to Germany and other European nations.

The release of methane into the water and atmosphere is killing marine life and delivering a greenhouse gas pollutant into the atmosphere that would be gravely feared by believers in man-made global warming. The word "eco-terrorism" comes to mind the describe the act of sabotage, if that's what the explosions were.

Powerful voices are blaming Russia.  According to the Washington Post, which frequently serves as an outlet for the Intelligence Community:

Five European officials with direct knowledge of security discussions said there was a widespread assumption that Russia was behind the incident. Only Russia had the motivation, the submersible equipment and the capability, several of them said, though they cautioned that they did not yet have direct evidence of Russia's involvement.

"No one on the European side of the ocean is thinking this is anything other than Russian sabotage," said a senior European environmental official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal thinking about the leak.

One official said it might have been a message to NATO: "We are close." Another said that it could be a threat to other, non-Russian energy infrastructure, since so many pipelines crisscross the Baltic Sea, including the one inaugurated Tuesday. A third noted that crucial internet data cables lie along the bottom of the sea, and there have been long-standing concerns that Russia has a submersible program that could cut them, causing communications chaos around the world.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: nordstreampipeline; notthisagain; russia; sabotage; usa
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THE QUESTION NEEDS TO BE ASKED:

Why would Russia want to preclude its ability to use the pipelines for leverage, threatening to further reduce — or increase — its delivery of natural gas?  Russia could always cut deliveries without damaging the pipeline, after all, and maintain the ability to reward behavior it wants by increasing the delivery of gas.  The explosions remove that lever from Putin's grasp.

What raises intense suspicion on the United States is the very specific threat that President Biden issued against Nordstream last February 7:

"If Russia invades ... then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it." Reporter: "But how will you do that, exactly, since ... the project is in Germany's control?" Biden: "I promise you, we will be able to do that."


1 posted on 09/28/2022 9:15:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I have no doubt deep state global conspirators including those in the US (Biden) blew up the pipeline. Why wouldn’t they?


2 posted on 09/28/2022 9:19:24 AM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is against the interest of anyone except the US.


3 posted on 09/28/2022 9:19:32 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: SeekAndFind

Seems pretty obvious that this Act of War was perpetrated by the USA.


4 posted on 09/28/2022 9:19:49 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. )
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m convinced we were involved. Nothing else really makes sense.


5 posted on 09/28/2022 9:21:25 AM PDT by grimalkin (Communism is the final logic of the dehumanization of man. -Fulton J. Sheen)
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To: SeekAndFind

Biden already said he’d do it. When people tell you they will kill you, you should believe them. I do not and will not support Democrats war with Russia. Anyone with eyes can see what this is all about.


6 posted on 09/28/2022 9:21:26 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: SeekAndFind

This even seems like a Biden move. Using Government assets for his benefit is something he has done whenever possible. A selfish dirt bag with no regard for the misery he inflicts on anyone who he disagrees with or even gets in his way.


7 posted on 09/28/2022 9:21:55 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: SeekAndFind

Brandon did this, no doubts.

Wait for him to brag before long.

The most amazing thing is how slow are the Europeans to realize that the goal is to destroy them.


8 posted on 09/28/2022 9:22:53 AM PDT by mvonfr
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To: SeekAndFind

There must be many articles from that time about how that was intended as a military threat to physically attack the pipeline and destroy it.


9 posted on 09/28/2022 9:23:02 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is going to be a cold day in hell this winter for the europeans. We are watching industry shut down in Germany and throughout the EU Zone. This only serves to quickly force Europeans to lock in immediate alternate sources of energy which is the Biden Admin’s goal to further harm Russia. The fact that the europeans were buying Russian gas and oil only serves to trigger the wokester’s in charge of the New Green Deal.


10 posted on 09/28/2022 9:23:05 AM PDT by Jumper ( )
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To: SeekAndFind
...the Washington Post, which frequently serves as an outlet for the Intelligence Community:

Frequently?....... It's their HOUSE ORGAN!...................

11 posted on 09/28/2022 9:23:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: SeekAndFind

If proven true AND Germany was not involved:

Act of sabotage.
Act of Terrorism.
Breach of NATO Article 5.


12 posted on 09/28/2022 9:24:10 AM PDT by cranked
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To: All

There is little doubt in my mind that ‘Biden’ (actually his puppetmasters gave the orders, and Biden is too demented to say no) did it, in an attempt to start a nuclear war.


13 posted on 09/28/2022 9:24:15 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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“Thanks to an open threat issued by President Biden”


I understand why the question is being asked. But remember that FJB is the same guy who said that 9mm bullets blow lungs out of the body, that 150,000,000 Americans died since the expiration of the “assault weapons” ban and that 120,000,000 Americans have died from the China virus.

I know he is POTUS and all, why does anyone pay attention to what he says?


14 posted on 09/28/2022 9:24:57 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: SeekAndFind

NeoCons will have a hard time accepting that USA was the bad guy here if this is true.


15 posted on 09/28/2022 9:26:53 AM PDT by MNDude (Once you remove "they would never" from your vocabulary, it all begins to make sense)
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To: hanamizu

“I know he is POTUS and all, why does anyone pay attention to what he says?”

Not sure, this just my take, but I would imagine it is because BidenIdiot sometimes slips up and exposes the truth.


16 posted on 09/28/2022 9:27:06 AM PDT by cranked
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To: LegendHasIt

> Biden is too demented to say no <

All they’d have to do would be to place the order in front of him, and tell him to sign it. Then sign it he would.

“Mr. President, here’s this month’s pudding order. It needs you signature at the bottom.”


17 posted on 09/28/2022 9:29:15 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The question has already been asked: CUI BONO?

Simple logic says either the USA or Ukraine. I can’t think of any others.


18 posted on 09/28/2022 9:31:50 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: ClearCase_guy

Within a week, there will be an all out propaganda campaign by Western leaders and MSM outlets to blame the sabotage on Russia.

We’ll see the usual individuals fall for it. Get ready to hear the talking points of “why Biden didn’t mean what he said” and “why Putin destroying his own leverage benefits him.”


19 posted on 09/28/2022 9:32:08 AM PDT by MNDude (Once you remove "they would never" from your vocabulary, it all begins to make sense)
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To: SeekAndFind

Precisely. The US government has been warning about that Russian “lever” for decades.

The Germans, or the German political class, have long been in favor because it enabled Germany to indulge in enviro whimsy while still actually generating electricity. And then there is the effect of Russian bribery, which has fed German politics to an extent that is not common knowledge.

Thats what Trump was quarreling with the Germans about, and it was not just Merkel. He was continuing longstanding US policy. The Media didnt explain that of course.

Biden started off by abandoning that ancient US position and signing off on Nordstream II. To please - who? I suspect it was mainly meant to spite Trump, and secondarily to please the Germans.

When Putin invaded Ukraine the “lever” came into play, and everyone scrambled to pull a 180.


20 posted on 09/28/2022 9:32:29 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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