Did Putin’s frogmen blow up Europe’s gas supplies? Western leaders blame ‘deliberate’ sabotage after Nordsteam pipe from Russia ruptured off Sweden

FOR MAILONLINE ^ | 27 September 2022 | By DAVID AVERRE and JAMIE PHILLIPS

[dennisw]

Did Putin’s frogmen blow up Europe’s gas supplies? Western leaders blame ‘deliberate’ sabotage after Nordsteam pipe from Russia ruptured off Sweden causing 3000ft-wide bubbles and sending prices spiking

Three leaks reported in Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines near Danish island last night and this morning Pipelines are leaking gas into the Baltic Sea, with one area more than 3,000ft wide churning with bubbles

Danish PM Mette Frederiksen has said her government believes the leaks were caused by 'deliberate actions' Ukraine also pointed the finger at Moscow, describing the incident as a 'terrorist attack and act of aggression'

Latvian Defence Minister has called on Nato and EU's member states to investigate the pipeline blasts

Western leaders have blamed ‘deliberate’ sabotage after Nordsteam pipe from Russia suffered 'unprecedented' damage off Sweden - causing 3000ft-wide bubbles in the Baltic Sea and causing prices to spike.

Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said her government believes the leaks were caused by 'deliberate actions', adding that the gas supply pipeline will be out of action for around a week.

She said this evening: 'It is now the clear assessment by authorities that these are deliberate actions. It was not an accident. There is no information yet to indicate who may be behind this action.'

Her Energy Minister Dan Jorgensen also said the size of the holes in the pipelines indicate that the leaks could not have been caused by an accident such as getting hit by an anchor. The damaged pipelines are at a depth of 70-90 meters below sea level, he added.

The remarks were backed by Sweden's PM Magdalena Andersson, who said informations suggests the blasts were likely sabotage.

She said her government was in close contact with partners such as Nato and neighbours such as Denmark and Germany concerning the developments.

[dennisw]

They wuz somebody’s frogmen. Underwater demolition team with very serious explosives. The pipe is encased in 12” of rebarred concrete, from what I have read. The pipe is 1.75” thick steel.

[PGR88]

Russia built, operates and controls the gas flow into the pipeline. The cost was something like $10 billion.

They could simply shut the valve at the entrance

NS pipeline is also Russia’s key political/energy leverage over Germany. It has been trying to use NS to pry Germany away from US policy for years.

Now that NS is non-operational, the only pipelines to Germany run through Ukraine. Who benefits from that?

This propaganda is even stupider than the “Russia is shelling a nuclear plant it controls and operates to create a nuclear holocaust in Europe.”

My goodness, you people are shameless.

[jpp113]

Saw on Faux News that apparently the CIA warned Germany about the pipelines being taken outa few weeks ago, which is where all the talk about "something big" happening on September 24 came from. That is only 2 days before the seismographs detected the explosions.

Yep, Inside Job by WEF sycophants', basically the FJB cabal. This doddering old jerk's commie minions are going to get a whole bunch of us killed for that globalist garbage

[Travis McGee]

Russia, Europe, and the Golden Goose Named Nord Stream

Today, September 27, "somebody" blew up both Nord Stream pipelines by underwater sabotage, that is, with a submarine/mini submarine/frogman demolition raid. Who? "Somebody." But only Americans watching brain-dead up-is-down 2+2=5 propaganda 24/7 will believe Putin ordered it. Why?

Because Russia controls the natural gas input to the Nord Stream pipelines with valves. They can turn the pressure on and off at will. As long as the pipelines are undamaged, Russia holds more face cards and has more options.

What happened today with the submarine/mini-sub/frogman pipeline demo attack, was that Europe lost ANY chance to reconsider its sanctions against Russia in return for more natural gas.

Now, who, pray tell, might want to forestall ANY opportunity for Europeans to reconsider their sanctions against Russia, as winter sets in, people freeze, and factories shut down, leading to mass unemployment, the worst economic depression in a century, and possibly mass riots that could overturn governments?

Think hard. Ponder. Did Russia originally cut off Europe’s gas? NO. Europe put sanctions on Russia over Ukraine and said, “We won’t buy your nasty damn Russian gas anymore.” But, the option to reconsider sanctions, and buy Russian gas again, was always open. Russia controlled the valves, and was always willing to honor their multi-year contracts and keep selling natural gas to Europe. {Buying with Rubles, etc, as many countries are.]

Now, after the Nord Stream pipelines were blown up today, the option for Europeans to reconsider their anti-Russian sanctions is closed, at least this winter. Only America can send them replacement liquid natural gas, and we can’t send half of what they need by LNG tanker. Way less than half.

So Europe is now SCREWED. Trapped like a cave diver who is a thousand feet from the cave exit, looking at his last air bottle's gauge, as the needle heads to zero. He's not going to make it, and he knows it.

Here is another analogy. A guy you don’t like much owns a golden goose. Every day it lays a golden egg, and you buy the gold egg on favorable terms. Every day, long term contract. You do massive jewelry business, whatever. The deal works for both of you.

Now, you get into a fight with the owner of the goose, mainly on behalf of one of your much richer friends who hates the goose guy even MORE than you hate him. You are pressured into not buying any of they guy’s golden eggs. Your rich friend assures you that soon the owner of the golden goose will come begging you to buy his golden eggs again, because his income has been cut off.

But it doesn’t work out the way your rich friend said. Turns out, Mr. Golden Goose can sell his golden eggs to other people. He’s not going broke. On the other hand, you, the big league jeweler, you ARE going broke without the gold. You are looking at closing your chain of jewelry outlets and laying everybody off. Bankrupt.

Now, is it logical, do you believe, that under any circumstance, the owner of the golden goose is going to break the neck of his golden goose and kill it, out of a fit of pique, BECAUSE YOU REFUSED TO BUY HIS GOLDEN EGGS!?

[dennisw]

Laugh at the Daily Mail .... But why not look at the DM article itself for some good maps and graphics. This is why I posted this.

[ConservativeMind]

You are back!!

Congratulations!

[jpp113]

USS Kearsage was in the area over the weekend and sailed lickety-split back to the UK. Thats sourced in another thread on here. Also heard from a fellow Freeper that the ship carries Seal Teams onboard.

[Fido969]

Oh please! Your analytical ability is poor. You are fired.

Oh, and you are a paragon of perfect deductive reasoning.

[Vermont Lt]

I doubt there were frogmen at that depth. I imagine if it were a Russian sub, we knew about it.

[Travis McGee]

“They wuz somebody’s frogmen.”

They sure were. I used to do it professionally. Locked out of SSNs underwater. Rode in mini-subs. Mixed-gas for deep and closed-circuit oxygen (no bubbles) for shallow. Attached inert limpet mines to ships and other targets.

Russia, America, or any of the littoral nations have the capability.

Russia wouldn’t kill it’s own golden goose, explained above.

Hard to imagine Sweden, Denmark, Poland etc pulling this off on their own, without any notice given to NATO/Washington.

Who does that leave?

Strategically, CUI BONO?

[aMorePerfectUnion]

[UNGN]

The Nordstrom’s pipeline was blown up? What about the Macy’s pipeline?

/KJP

[dennisw]

With a super effort, these blown up underwater pipe sections can be repaired in 30 days. (My opinion) Experts are standing by and willing to charge top dollar for this.

If an underwater pipeline can be built, an underwater pipeline can be repaired.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

[Grognard49]

Are Biden’s Frogmen anything like Putin’s Little Green Men that he sent into Ukraine in 2014?

[FreedomPoster]

Why would Russia do it? They could stop flow by closing the valves at the source. Why endanger a high value asset like a military underwater demolitions type, when a pipeline tech could achieve the same result with a push of a button in a control room?

[Skywise]

Why would Putin blow up the pipeline? He just had to shut off the gas.

There’s no motive for him to destroy it when he could’ve publicly blown it up on his end.

[House Atreides]

“ Laugh at the Daily Mail .... But why not look at the DM article itself for some good maps and graphics. This is why I posted this.”
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Right, like you bought Playboy magazine only for the articles.

[circlecity]

This was Biden all the way

[Vaduz]

Yes it’s probably a simple case of pipe made in China.