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NASA’s $93B Artemis Moon Project Price Tag Is ‘Unsustainable’
Real Clear Policy ^ | September 21, 2022 | Adam Andrzejewski

Posted on 09/24/2022 3:06:14 PM PDT by Reno89519

While average Americans are excited the United States is planning to send people back to the moon through NASA’s Artemis project, the space agency’s inspector general said the cost is “unsustainable,” Fox News reported.

NASA Inspector General Paul K. Martin predicted that the first four missions will cost $4.1 billion each and told Congress that price "strikes us as unsustainable."

He projected that by 2025, NASA will have spent $93 billion on the Artemis lunar program.

The price tag is far more than the space agency’s lunar program was projected to cost a decade ago, CNBC reported.

In 2012, NASA officials estimated each mission would cost about $500 million, with the first rocket shooting off in 2017.

Now, the cost has increased eightfold, according to the NASA auditor.

Artemis I was originally scheduled to take off the last week of August but weather and hardware concerns postponed the launch.

NASA engineers had been unable to get the engines to the proper temperature range required to start them at liftoff, Fox News reported.

Launch controllers also had to deal with storms in the area that delayed propellant loading operations, as well as “a leak at the quick disconnect on the 8-inch line used to fill and drain core stage liquid hydrogen and a hydrogen leak from a valve used to vent the propellant from the core stage intertank,” Fox News reported.


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To: markman46
The Chinese ICBM and space program were going nowhere, until President Clinton pushed for guidance technology transfer from the US to China.

Then their ICBM and space program took off.

61 posted on 09/24/2022 4:30:01 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Neverlift

Just think a IPhone or a cheap laptop could have run the space program or run D-Day


62 posted on 09/24/2022 4:31:31 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Pollard

GOING OUTSIDE TO WATCH A FALCON BLAST OFF NOW.


63 posted on 09/24/2022 4:32:07 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

You are showing a 55+ year-old launch system.

The US has a far better system now, the Crewed Dragon. Indeed a Russian will be flown up to the ISS on one soon.

Horrible to see you pimp for Putin these days.


64 posted on 09/24/2022 4:32:08 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Travis McGee
I agree. Was this neglect, incompetence, or sabotage?

All three, but I lean heavily toward the sabotage aspect.

The Left has been a Fifth column in the United States since at least the 1920's.

The first thing to get out of the death spiral is to break the Media oligopoly, so there is some competition in politics and ideas.

That is ongoing and of great importance. Almost everything follows from that. Nearly all of our problems come from the constant lying and distortion of reality in the Media.

We have to defeat those in the USA who are determined to tear down the most successful country the world has ever seen.

The election of Donald Trump shows it can be done.

I believe it will happen along with a great revival in the United States.

Whether you are a believer or not, it is obvious it has been a combination of Judeo/Christian morals and the ideas of natural law and limited government which our success is based on.

We have to return to that.

65 posted on 09/24/2022 4:37:49 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Reno89519

Several NASA factoids.

The Orion / Artemis project uses some of the old Space Shuttle parts (engines, etc.)

Also, NASA has certain contracts they award that allow massive cost overrun. While the new James Webb telescope is, so far, performing very well, it was billions over budget. NASA outsources some work that does very well, and the many Mars rovers have exceeded expectations and parameters.

Any long term success in space will be commercial competition, and Musk is showing the way. While SpaceX is reusing / refurbishing rockets (one first stage has been used 13 times!) NASA will use large rockets once. Ridiculous.


66 posted on 09/24/2022 4:38:04 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try. )
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To: marktwain
I just watched about my 20th or so Falcon X launch, aiming skyward toward the NE in NE Florida. Saw booster separation, the big "corona" ring that happens at separation, everything.

Had to come inside to watch the booster stick the landing on the drone barge.


67 posted on 09/24/2022 4:46:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: from occupied ga

That’s pretty much true.


68 posted on 09/24/2022 4:48:38 PM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

At first, Team Falcon used to wash, clean and repaint the used boosters.

But after a while they stopped. The gray charcoal coating gave them the look of veterans.

The “dirtier” (looking) on the outside, the more proven the booster.


69 posted on 09/24/2022 4:48:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Those rooms are kinda - pale. Lots of ice people.

Where are their slaves?


70 posted on 09/24/2022 4:50:46 PM PDT by Jim Noble (And manly hearts to guard the fair)
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To: Yossarian

Crew Dragon is another private industry Musk/Falcon X creation.

So what is your point?


71 posted on 09/24/2022 4:51:13 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Crusher138

A Lost Generation (of genius engineers).

There should be medals, and museums.

Best we can do is visit Kennedy Space Center. Worth every entrance ticket dollar X10. Plan to arrive at opening and stay until closing, and you still can’t see it all. My highest “FL tourist destination” recommendation without a doubt.


72 posted on 09/24/2022 4:54:41 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Jim Noble

They were just ripping off the “Lost Scrolls of Wakanda.”

/sarc


73 posted on 09/24/2022 4:55:14 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SmokingJoe

Compare the SLS specs against SpaceX

SpaceX
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_heavy-lift_launch_vehicle

SLS
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Launch_System

SpaceX isn’t even close. Bang for the buck; solid propulsive is way more efficient and powerful. But it’s not something we can turn on and off. It’s like a Highway flare. 2 minutes of 6.4 Million lbs thrust They are more than 75% of the thrust at takeoff. Core is just over 2 million lbs thrust, but they can throttle up/down and turn off and on


74 posted on 09/24/2022 5:06:33 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Travis McGee

Obviously, 1960’s nasa did not have enough diversity and inclusion.

‘Cept for the black women behind the scenes, that did all the hard math.

Do I win?


75 posted on 09/24/2022 5:08:07 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Travis McGee

Apollo used Kerosene and Liquid Oxygen (LOx). NASA is horribly corrupted by politics. Global warming and all that crap

SLS and Shuttle used LOx and Liquid Hydrogen are the liquid fuels now. They burn and make water vapor; but far less energy per pound. And at around -490° F, they bring along all kinds of cryogenic “issues”.


76 posted on 09/24/2022 5:10:56 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Travis McGee

Liberal grifting and corruption including the grifting of “Diversity”.


77 posted on 09/24/2022 5:11:53 PM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: Travis McGee
Best we can do is visit Kennedy Space Center. Worth every entrance ticket dollar X10. Plan to arrive at opening and stay until closing, and you still can’t see it all. My highest “FL tourist destination” recommendation without a doubt.

It is excellent.

I got the insider tour with Meteorologist colleagues... (brag)

No doubt, we could of kept pax Americana, from space, if we had not been cut down by globalist insiders at the State department. Globalists who favored the Soviet Union over the USA.

78 posted on 09/24/2022 5:13:07 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: dragnet2

Multiplex communications have been used in cars for decades. Far less wiring means less interconnections, and greater reliability.


79 posted on 09/24/2022 5:13:27 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Travis McGee

You know the answer perfectly well, ;’} Amazon used to carry a book titled “Whitey on the Moon” ... it gave historical support to that answer. For obvious reasons, Amazon pulled the book.


80 posted on 09/24/2022 5:40:33 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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