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WW3 fears as Putin prepares to go all in on Ukraine: Russia paves the way for conscription and scrambles to annex Ukrainian territories, warning the West 'all forces' will be used to defend them
Daily Mail ^ | 9/20/2022 | Chris Pleasance

Posted on 09/20/2022 9:45:32 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

Vladimir Putin appeared poised to go all-in on his war in Ukraine today, sparking fears of an escalation in fighting that could drag in NATO and spark World War Three.

In a day of rapid-fire developments, Kremlin stooges in Ukraine's Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions simultaneously announced referendums on becoming part of Russia between September 23 and 27, with the sham votes expected to easily pass.

Dmitry Medvedev, a staunch Putin ally, then vowed 'all forces of self-defence' will be used to protect what he called 'Russian territory' - teeing up a new phase in the conflict involving weapons and tactics the Kremlin has so-far held in reserve.

Underlining that point, Moscow's rubber-stamp parliament passed new laws paving the war for Putin to end his 'special military operation' and officially declare a war, allowing him to mobilise Russia's massive population into the army.

It comes after Ukraine humiliatingly routed Putin's forces to the east of Kharkiv and recaptured a swathe of territory, with the despot's allies, propagandists and political hardliners calling for an escalation amid calls for the president to resign.

Putin was said to be preparing an address to the nation tonight, Russia's national broadcaster reported, without giving any further details.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: marcusmaximus

stupid country not worth defending and we face a NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST.


301 posted on 09/20/2022 2:54:24 PM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2008 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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To: cranked
You know, something we still yet to have...

No borscht for you at lunch today. You have to make your posts look like they were written by an American, not written by a Russian.

You have to stay after work and re-read the grammar guide to English sentence structure.


302 posted on 09/20/2022 2:56:52 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: PIF
the point of the referendums is to make conscripted Russians fight in those Oblasts. As it stands now, conscripts can legally refuse to fight outside of Russia. This will solve Pootie’s manpower problem on paper, but conscripts are no substitute for well trained, motivated and spirited troops - troops of which he might have 10,000 remaining scattered in various configurations of AD and ND units. This is sheer desperation.

So sending draftees abroad is sheer desperation ? Interesting I mean considering our own history

I think it is indicative they want to ramp up this limited war idea with few actual Russian regular army involved ..I’ll give you that plus it has politics pluses for Pootie and the breakaway republics leadership and DPR and LPR are getting impatient after 8 years

You can make a case either way especially if one believes Russian army is all in already ala western media and is running back from Kharkiv in their underwear on stolen bicycles which I don’t obviously because I read all sides

Sad to say western media is far less trustworthy than say Rybar

303 posted on 09/20/2022 2:59:16 PM PDT by wardaddy (Sound and Fury Republic)
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To: mac_truck

Yep if they apply full Russian military might it’s inevitable in my opinion


304 posted on 09/20/2022 3:01:09 PM PDT by wardaddy (Sound and Fury Republic)
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To: marcusmaximus

Patton allegedly said that we fought the wrong enemy.


305 posted on 09/20/2022 3:01:12 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: ifinnegan

Not a big fan of facts, I take it?


306 posted on 09/20/2022 3:02:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ( We need to “build back better” on the bones and ashes of those forcing us to “Build Back Better.")
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To: BobL

Send their kids to sue for this insanity.


307 posted on 09/20/2022 3:03:44 PM PDT by Shady (The #JihadJunta: "We are now a nation of Men, Not of Laws. You are not as equal as we are...")
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To: freeandfreezing

https://www.eurasiareview.com/16042020-the-water-crisis-in-crimea-analysis/

https://www.gzeromedia.com/crimea-river-russia-ukraines-water-conflict

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/08/world/europe/crimea-water-canal-russia.html


308 posted on 09/20/2022 3:04:46 PM PDT by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: freeandfreezing

Next?


309 posted on 09/20/2022 3:05:38 PM PDT by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: Boogieman

Is he bluffing? Will we see?


310 posted on 09/20/2022 3:06:01 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (All Hail the MAGA King, beloved of Ultra MAGAs and Deplorables!)
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To: ought-six
"5th generation military brat.."

That's also not a phrase an American would normally use.

Some young people call themselves "military brats" but that term doesn't apply to prior generations who have served.

When they get stressed the pro-Russian posters tend to make errors in their English that native speakers don't make.

311 posted on 09/20/2022 3:07:17 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Kazan
God damn you to hell for continuing to push this war and sanction war on the nation.

Sorry Kazan if you have a son who is going to get conscripted and sent to Ukraine. I can imagine the idea of their kids ending up in a trench in Ukraine with Ukrainians dropping grenades on them from drones is pretty unsettling for Russian parents.

312 posted on 09/20/2022 3:09:30 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: BobL

Oh, yeah. It’s all the West’s fault for helping them, or Ukraine’s fault for wanting to defend themselves. But he said “neocon,” so that proves Putin’s the good guy.

Choice bit of Herman Wouk here. I’ll have to look it up.


313 posted on 09/20/2022 3:10:11 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (All Hail the MAGA King, beloved of Ultra MAGAs and Deplorables!)
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To: wardaddy

You do not seem to understand anything about conscripts in Russia, since you had to conflate the Ukraine war with US wars.

Most of the regular - professional army is either 200 or 300. They only had 280,000 to begin with in the RGF and NI.

LNR/DNR is mostly depopulated, as the men were all conscripted and sent to the front by their Russian officers to make suicide charges several months ago. Most are rotting where they fell or in mass graves, uncounted by any one.

Reading propaganda by either side is a waste of time. Just look at what happens at the front; there are plenty of videos to learn what’s happening. There is seldom a grain of truth in any Russian propaganda - propaganda which has not changed since Soviet times.


314 posted on 09/20/2022 3:10:41 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: MarMema
China has a very impressive list of allies

Like Outer Mongolia?

China depends on sales of their products to the USA and other western nations. They cannot and will not tolerate anything that disrupts that business. Russia couldn't even get Xi to talk about Ukraine in his recent meetings with him.

Right now the Ukrainians are firing Chinese made mortar shells at the Russians. The Chinese are pragmatic, not dogmatic.

315 posted on 09/20/2022 3:13:33 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

Who says they were killed by the Russian army?

Do you want pictures of Ukrainians killed last night by the Ukrainian army? After the UKR shelled a completely civilian area?

https://southfront.org/13-civilians-fell-victims-of-precision-strike-by-ukrainian-nazis-in-donetsk-photos-videos-21/


316 posted on 09/20/2022 3:14:46 PM PDT by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: marcusmaximus

Tell your pals in KFOR to get out of Serbian land


317 posted on 09/20/2022 3:15:26 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: MarMema
They have more powerful friends than we do.

Are you stoned today?

The total Russian economy is around the size of the economy of Texas or California or perhaps Italy.

Without even considering how large the entire USA is, Texas has more powerful "friends" than Russia does. Places like Florida or California.

318 posted on 09/20/2022 3:18:19 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

Pakistan
Serbia
Iran
North Korea
Russia

Most of Africa loves China and may jump in.


319 posted on 09/20/2022 3:20:03 PM PDT by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: MarMema

So I take it that you’re okay with Hispanic kids in the USA learning only Spanish, and not having to learn English because that would be cruel and racist, right?


320 posted on 09/20/2022 3:21:43 PM PDT by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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