Posted on 09/19/2022 5:59:05 AM PDT by Red Badger
After the Supreme Court denied a bid to block an LGBTQ+ group from forming at its campus, Yeshiva University in New York City has opted to temporarily suspend all student groups.
“The university will hold off on all undergraduate club activities while it immediately takes steps to follow the roadmap provided by the US Supreme Court to protect YU’s religious freedom,” the school’s newspaper, The Commentator reported.
The original dispute came about when a New York state court ordered Yeshiva to fully recognize an LGBTQ+ club known as the “Pride Alliance” on campus, the New York Post reported. Since Yeshiva is a religious institution and not a public university, it argued that it could not be forced to recognize something that was not in accordance with its religious values and mission. A New York judge disagreed, stating that as an educational institution the school could not rely on “religious liberty” to ban the club’s formation, according to the NY Post.
The university asked for a stay to put the New York decision on pause, but that motion was denied by the US Supreme Court Wednesday in a 5-4 vote.
Reaction to the university’s decision has been met with confusion and frustration from student leaders.
“We were not expecting the university to take this drastic measure, and have not received any guidance about how we are to proceed with approving clubs, or having student council events,” Yeshiva Student Union (YSU) President Baruch Lerman stated according to The Commentator.
Former student and plaintiff in the case against the university, Tai Miller, reacted to the club suspension announcement on Twitter, stating that the university’s decision to cancel all groups rather than work with one LGBTQ+ support group was reminiscent of the reactions in the South to court-ordered desegregation.
University President Rabbi Dr. Ari Berman stated that Yeshiva simply seeks that same right of self-determination that every faith-based university in the country has to work with its students, including its LGBTQ students, “to establish the clubs, places and spaces that fit within its faith tradition.”
“The Supreme Court has laid out the roadmap for us to find expedited relief, and we will follow their instructions. At the same time, as our commitment to and love for our LGBTQ students are unshakable, we continue to extend our hand in invitation to work together to create a more inclusive campus life consistent with our Torah values,” he concluded.
In fact, he lived at a time when any serious university would have refused any offer of government aid -- for the obvious reasons of government-induced corruption of the university.
oliver wendell holmes he aint.
Rabbi Berman is one smart man, the World needs more leaders like him. Homos are abnormal and their beliefs should not be shoved in our faces.
Good. Hit the books, kids. Stop wasting time.
Literally......................🤢
I guess its OK then to have a Hitler club at a Jewish university.
It is entirely possible that the court will rule in favor of Yeshiva when the case eventually makes it back up. That's why the dean talked about the road map necessary to get the case back to the Supreme Court.
The problem is that the Supreme Court already gets far more cases than it can handle, and those are the cases that already have gone through either the state court or federal court system. If it started taking cases that had only been decided at a lower level first, it would be even more overwhelmed. So unfortunately, this is standard procedure.
Listening to Barnes Law on this. Of course, he really doesn’t like Roberts and Kegger-—says Kegger is good on guns, abortion, some other things, bad on vaxxes and homosexuals. But, an earlier fed court upheld (I think it was Bob Jones) another university’s appeal on this, and this does NOT deny Yeshiva, only requires Yeshiva to exhaust other routes.
In other words, Kegger & Roberts want someone else to be on the hook for this if at all possible. But I think in the end, they will have no choice but to uphold the lower court as there were no substantive disagreements with Yeshiva.
Actually, it really wasn't. When the Constitution was ratified, the Bill of Rights generally applied only to the actions of the federal government. The First Amendment in particular begins with "Congress shall make...", But says absolutely nothing about what states can do. That was true until the passage of the 14th Amendment after the Civil War.
So, state governments were free to limit the press, limit religion, etc., And some did do so, until after the passage of the 14th Amendment.
Lots of folks aren't aware of that.
What the hell is wrong with SCOTUS???
Five ninths rotten.......................
What criteria did they use to declare they were not a religious organization?
Freedom of Association is dead. They just murdered it....................................
Actually, it really wasn't. When the Constitution was ratified, the Bill of Rights generally applied only to the actions of the federal government. The First Amendment in particular begins with "Congress shall make...", But says absolutely nothing about what states can do. That was true until the passage of the 14th Amendment after the Civil War.
So, state governments were free to limit the press, limit religion, etc., And some did do so, until after the passage of the 14th Amendment.
Lots of folks aren't aware of that.
1. It doesn't have a mission oriented toward a specific religious denomination. It would have a much stronger case to make as a religious organization if it supported only -- or at least mainly -- Catholics.
2. It does not restrict its leadership on religious grounds. It's hard to call yourself a Catholic religious organization, for example, when your CFO is a Protestant, your chief legal counsel is Jewish, etc.
3. More than 65% of the organization's revenues came from government grants.
Why we can’t have nice things. Radical leftists ruin everything.
Well, from what I’ve read the SCOTUS refused to take up an Emergency Appeal by the university. The Court said the university hadn’t exhausted avenues of appeal at the lower levels.
This happens all the time, otherwise you’d have everyone skipping the normal appeals process and going directly to the Supreme Court.
Sucks when it happens on a conservative issue, but doesn’t mean the Court won’t take it up at a later date. Doesn’t mean the Court won’t rule in favor of the University.
True. It just means the SCOTUS doesn’t want to deal with the issue at this time.................
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