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WORLDUkraine Forces Take Control of Key River Bank, Extending Advance in East {Oskil river - crossed over from Kupyiansk)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 19th September 2022 | Ian Lovett

Posted on 09/19/2022 4:31:29 AM PDT by Cronos

...now control the eastern bank of the Oskil River in the Kharkiv region, while Moscow continues to launch attacks against civilian infrastructure in Ukraine following its military setbacks in the country’s east.

Strategic Command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces posted a video on social media on Sunday that appeared to show an armored vehicle crossing the river, along with the message, “Ukraine controls the left bank.”

The claim suggests Ukraine’s push east is continuing after its forces seized about 3,500 square miles of territory in the northeastern Kharkiv region in a lightning offensive earlier this month that put Moscow on the back foot.

Ukrainian troops are now within about 20 miles of the Luhansk region, which Moscow captured months ago and whose seizure the Kremlin has repeatedly called one of its priorities for the war in Ukraine.

....Russian forces, meanwhile, established a new defensive line between the river and the town of Svatove in the Luhansk region over the weekend, according to the British ministry of defense. The ministry said Russia would likely defend the area aggressively after suffering a swift rout in the Kharkiv region, allowing Ukrainian forces to seize huge swaths of land in just a few days.

Battlefield setbacks have continued for Moscow. The British Ministry of Defense said Russia had lost at least four combat jets in Ukraine within the last 10 days, for a total loss of around 55 jets since the start of the invasion.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Russia
KEYWORDS: lol; ministryoftruth; thetimebot; timebot; vatnik
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To: cranked
Oh look, thousands of Russian neo-nazis parading through the streets in a country where you don't have the 1st Amendment we take for granted.

The thousands of Russian neo-nazis marching in this video were not stopped by the government, because their extremism is something Putin and his top aides support.

141 posted on 09/19/2022 12:56:02 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

Enjoy your blissful adventure.


142 posted on 09/19/2022 12:57:12 PM PDT by cranked
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To: lodi90

#43. Informed or not the Putinists bloodlust and nutbaggery is as subtle as a KISS concert. I miss the old days when the standard of crazy was LaRouche, 9/11 conspiracies and Debka.


143 posted on 09/19/2022 1:18:06 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: Cronos

A Pole who loves Ukrainians so much he thinks about their well being night and day. You love Germans too. Were your forbears Polish patriots or Nazi stooges? Hence the love fest. You are obseessed about the idea that a nation like Ukraine must be a victim if it is invaded. Do you think Lebanon is a victim if it is invaded by Israel? Was Serbia a victim? Libya? Iraq? What is so special about Ukraine to you?


144 posted on 09/19/2022 2:22:11 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

PLEASE can you people come up with new lines?? These are getting VERY old...


145 posted on 09/19/2022 5:13:58 PM PDT by Vaden (Real conservatives will not allow our wagon to be hitched to fascist Russia)
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To: Vaden
PLEASE can you people come up with new lines?? These are getting VERY old...

Hit a nerve? Call Soros. Maybe he'll send you some Pamprin.

146 posted on 09/19/2022 7:04:37 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐Public hangings will wake 'em up.⭐⭐)
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To: cranked; All
Again, the premise was ‘civilian infrastructure’

Butterfly bomblets have nothing to do with destroying civilian infrastructure, either.

Graphite bombs' purpose is essentially to short stuff out and trip protective systems or trigger safety shutdowns at electric power installations. If the safety systems are inadequate or malfunction, more permanent damage can occur, as with storm damage, but, that is not the intention.

In GW 2, two strafing attacks with 20mm cannon, outside the US ROE, disabled two Iraqi transformer stations in the same area, at slightly different times. I attempted to research this and apparently it is unknown if the pilot was identified and disciplined for going outside the ROE. All other identified US attacks on electrical infrastructure apparently used graphite (carbon fiber) bombs.

https://www.hrw.org/reports/2003/usa1203/4.5.htm

147 posted on 09/19/2022 9:16:44 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Cronos

I am more curious about the Putinistas’ definition of “Nazi”. It seems to be rather broad...


148 posted on 09/19/2022 9:23:04 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: cranked

The Geneva Convention disagrees.


149 posted on 09/19/2022 9:23:44 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: rrrod

Thanks for that mention. I’ll check it out.


150 posted on 09/19/2022 9:31:56 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: rrrod

Well, wait, now this seems to be an item of hot contention....


151 posted on 09/19/2022 9:37:12 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.; All

OTOH:

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/05/10/americans-concerns-about-war-in-ukraine-wider-conflict-possible-u-s-russia-clash/

This very closely parallels my asking around of friends and acquaintances.


152 posted on 09/19/2022 9:42:40 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.
From that Pew Poll (and from polling conservatives I know in person, I agree with this number):

Conservative Republicans are somewhat more likely than liberal and moderate Republicans to say that the U.S. is providing too little support to Ukraine (40% vs. 24%).

153 posted on 09/19/2022 9:52:34 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: RoosterRedux

There are many international sources available. If what seems to be a source with a dim view of the US (many of the Indian media, for example) expresses concern or questions about Russian progress, or complains about US support of Ukraine, that’s a good clue.

Then again, the Russian’s are pretty easy to see through. Remember when they withdrew from Kyiv? “A gesture of goodwill” and 20 other types of obvious baloney. So, if they say tomorrow that they “strategically repositioned”, it’s a pretty safe bet they got their butts kicked out.

Events have shown the Ukies to be reasonably truthful on things like towns retaken, etc. (allowing for some occasional deliberate misdirection aimed at Russia), but they don’t like to admit the cost of the gains. Individual Ukie soldiers and commanders are sometimes quite candid about the challenges they face. Even ex-Pres. Poroshenko is a crook no doubt, but I was stunned at how direct he was about his and his street brigade’s situation in the early days, with a massive Russian convoy headed toward Kyiv: He was matter of factly listing the paltry light weapons his “brigade” had left, and not even really complaining about it, just thanking the US for the handful of “100% effective” Javelins they’d used up.

Last, satellite images from original sources are usually valid, as fakes are run down quickly. (If nothing else, give everything a week to “settle out”.)


154 posted on 09/19/2022 10:46:27 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: cranked

3. Does this include schools and hospitals full of civilians?.

You are nuts!


155 posted on 09/20/2022 12:34:00 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Ukraine has no problems whatsoever shelling, firing rockets, etc. into schools and hospitals, so yeah.

Also, if military units take up positions within a hospital or school and start lobbing shells, etc. from them, do they not cease being off limits?

The real and actual nuts are you knuckleheads that assert otherwise.


156 posted on 09/20/2022 12:51:36 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Paul R.

Thx for that comment. Helpful.


157 posted on 09/20/2022 2:18:46 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Paul R.; cranked
Putinista's definition of "Nazi" is "anyone who does not want to be ruled from Moscow"

Right, cranko?

158 posted on 09/20/2022 2:34:29 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Again, my proof for what today’s neo-Nazi and Neo-Nazism is has been given which you knuckleheads have yet to disprove in any way shape or form other than with strawman arguments and BS like ‘Russia was ALLIED with Germany in WWII.

Non-aggression agreement and an agreement to partition Poland between then Germany and Russia is in no way shape or form an ‘alliance’.

You and your knucklehead cohorts are living proof to all of us that the education system blows ass.


159 posted on 09/20/2022 2:38:11 AM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked
Cranked's definition of "Nazi" is "anyone who does not want to be ruled from Moscow"

Does the Kremlin consider Tuvans as Nazis?

160 posted on 09/20/2022 3:39:06 AM PDT by Cronos
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