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A Hundred Wrecked Tanks In A Hundred Hours: Ukraine Guts Russia’s Best Tank Army
Forbes ^ | 13-SEP-2022 | David Axe

Posted on 09/14/2022 10:26:26 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas

The Ukrainian army’s counteroffensive around the city of Kharkiv in northeastern Ukraine starting on Sept. 6 destroyed half of the best tank division in the best tank army in the Russian armed forces.

A hundred wrecked or captured tanks in a hundred furious hours. That’s how much destruction the Ukrainians inflicted on the Russian 4th Guards Tank Division, part of the elite 1st Guards Tank Army, the Russian army’s best armor formation.

Now the 1st GTA is retreating north in order to preserve what remains of its front-line divisions. But the damage the tank army has suffered could have lasting implications—and not just for Russia’s 200-day-old wider war in Ukraine.

The 1st GTA “had been one of the most prestigious of Russia’s armies, allocated for the defense of Moscow, and intended to lead counterattacks in the case of a war with NATO,” the U.K. Defense Ministry explained. “It will likely take years for Russia to rebuild this capability.”

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To: DIRTYSECRET

Tanjs have to be used in a combined arms method. Troops are deployed well away from the tank to suppress short range anti tank assets. Further out is covered by drones, helicopters and scouts. At extreme distance there may be radar pickets scanning the ground. All of this is coordinated by a battle controller. Everyone is connected by cypher radios. The Russians are doing none of this.


81 posted on 09/14/2022 11:44:41 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: tlozo

But people say they haven’t seen any videos or photos. How is it possible you are posting these?


82 posted on 09/14/2022 11:45:59 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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To: SpeedyInTexas
From the title: Ukraine guts Russia’s best tank army

Stopped right there. Anyone who believes this is Ukraine doing this is a fool. This is done by "contractors" for Democrats in the U.S.

83 posted on 09/14/2022 11:48:25 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: DIRTYSECRET

An old WWII Mauldin cartoon showing Willie and Joe digging and watching a tank pass:

“I’d rather dig, a moving foxhole attracts the eye”


84 posted on 09/14/2022 11:48:49 AM PDT by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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To: SpeedyInTexas
Said it before, and I'll say it again: Were it not for the fact that the Russkies have nuclear weapons, their military is no better than Saddam Hussein's "elite Republican Guard" was during Desert Storm.

The vaunted Russian military has been fully exposed for the sham that it is.

I'll repeat this point too: based on the horseshit condition of their military and the Russian's lack of ability to protect their backsides & supply lines, along with the shoddy condition of their military's equipment I have doubts that their nukes are even in good enough shape to fire and hit a target.

Russia's military has been exposed. It's a fraud. All the money that Putin believed was going to his military to arm up and become world class was siphoned off vis a vis good old Russian Communist Corruption. That's how commie countries work. Any bets the billions and billions Putin spent went into the pockets of the Oligarch's?

85 posted on 09/14/2022 11:49:44 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: SpeedyInTexas

So many freepers with their heads in the sand and bare a$$es in the air...

Ukraine is winning the special Russian military operation, whether you like it or not doesn’t matter.


86 posted on 09/14/2022 11:49:59 AM PDT by pacificus
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To: pacificus

“So many freepers with their heads in the sand and bare a$$es in the air...

Ukraine is winning the special Russian military operation, whether you like it or not doesn’t matter.”

Winning post of the day!


87 posted on 09/14/2022 11:52:53 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Quick updates from the south:

Russian officers abandoning and fleeing Crimea.

Russian soldiers defecting en masse.

More Russian armor, rocket launchers, ammo confiscated.

Ukrainian forces have destroyed Russian S-400 batteries.

Ukrainian forces now shooting at Russians in the streets of towns and cities.

Ukrainian troops continue to advance upon Kherson.

The Russian rout grows in intensity.


88 posted on 09/14/2022 11:54:23 AM PDT by Vaden (Real conservatives will not allow our wagon to be hitched to fascist Russia)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Russkie reports, which also said the offensive failed.


89 posted on 09/14/2022 11:55:27 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“I doubt all those tanks were taken out in this offensive.”

Correct. My understanding is that many of the ones captured this week were in maintenance yards.

Tanks that had been damaged in earlier fights, recovered by the Russians, but not yet in a useable state.


90 posted on 09/14/2022 11:58:55 AM PDT by Renfrew
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To: ansel12

The Putinists have a mind virus. It renders them stupid and unhinged.


91 posted on 09/14/2022 12:00:58 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: nascarnation

“Patton playbook for forested/urban areas mandated aggressive infantry patrolling in advance of tanks. Not a fun job but necessary.”

The problem for Russia is that the tank corps are professionals while the infantry are conscripts, and conscripts cannot be sent over the border.

That is one reason the armor has consistently been so vulnerable.


92 posted on 09/14/2022 12:01:03 PM PDT by Renfrew
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

This forum is almost completely useless for discussions of and as a source of information about this war because of the spamming, trolling, and hijacking Russia trolls.


93 posted on 09/14/2022 12:15:25 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

1st Guards Tank Army will return with their dreaded mint condition T-34s and SU-100s. Ukraine will quiver and shake with dread and stink with the fear sweats.


94 posted on 09/14/2022 12:15:54 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Any conflict with the Russians has resulted in bloodbath for Ukraine. But, you don’t care, Speedy. Ukrainian lives don’t matter. All that matters to those with Russian Derangement Syndrome is killing Russians...kill, kill, kill. You are your ilk are bordering on mental illness.


95 posted on 09/14/2022 12:16:02 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: SpeedyInTexas

I don’t believe any information from any sources from either side of this war. However... I do trust these sources then our own government and the FBI


96 posted on 09/14/2022 12:17:31 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: Renfrew
... My understanding is that many of the ones captured this week were in maintenance yards....

It's worth mentioning, though, that the yards are on land that had to be recaptured to get them. No small potatoes.

97 posted on 09/14/2022 12:17:36 PM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: Fai Mao

Pictures by the thousands do not lie nor do the dozens of intercepted phone calls home to Mom.

The truth here will be much like it is presented by the UA.


98 posted on 09/14/2022 12:18:20 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Reports are Ukraine lost up to 12k soldiers taking an area no bigger than Rhode Island.


not 12K, are you nuts, it was more like 120K in just 100 hours. Russia tottaly controls all of Ukraine, except Kyiv and some other small unimportant areas.


99 posted on 09/14/2022 12:20:25 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“”Notice in many photos of captured Russians’ hands tied with a cell phone next to them.
The faster-running Russians will be spreading the word like never before.””

Wow, so true. Information is reaching the streets and at the level where information can be most effective, the people getting hidden eyewitness information and knowledge under the radar and talking to each other.


100 posted on 09/14/2022 12:21:58 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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