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The strategy behind Ukraine’s rapid advance began to take shape months ago.
The New York Times ^ | September 13, 2022 | Julian E. Barnes, Eric Schmitt and Helene Cooper

Posted on 09/13/2022 4:39:10 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

The strategy behind Ukraine’s rapid military gains in recent days began to take shape months ago during a series of intense conversations between Ukrainian and U.S. officials about the way forward in the war against Russia, according to American officials.

The counteroffensive — revised this summer from its original form after urgent discussions between senior U.S. and Ukrainian officials — has succeeded beyond most predictions. Ukrainian forces have devastated Russian command and control, and appear poised to capitalize on their advances in the northeast of the country and in another campaign in the south.

The work began soon after President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine told his generals he wanted to make a dramatic move to demonstrate that his country could push back on the Russian invasion. Under his orders, the Ukrainian military devised a plan to launch a broad assault across the south to reclaim Kherson and cut off Mariupol from the Russian force in the east.

The Ukrainian generals and American officials believed that such a large-scale attack would incur immense casualties and fail to quickly retake large amounts of territory. The Ukrainians were already suffering hundreds of casualties a day in what had become a grinding conflict. The Russian forces were experiencing similar losses but were still inching forward, laying waste to Ukrainian towns in the eastern region of Donbas.

Long reluctant to share details of their plans, the Ukrainian commanders started opening up more to American and British intelligence officials and seeking advice.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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Wargame simulations predicted the Russian rout.
1 posted on 09/13/2022 4:39:10 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Biden will be gigantic hero.
Wait.


2 posted on 09/13/2022 5:05:02 AM PDT by period end of story (Unvaxxed for my protection.)
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To: period end of story

This wasn’t Biden and it wasn’t Zelensky.

It was the military folks who planned and won,


3 posted on 09/13/2022 5:24:34 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Timber Rattler

In other words, the U.S. is at active war with Russia.


4 posted on 09/13/2022 5:29:15 AM PDT by SueRae (An administration like no other.)
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To: Timber Rattler

No simulations to it. U.S. boots on the ground; either covert troops or contract mercenaries with U.S. leadership.


5 posted on 09/13/2022 5:41:34 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan ( )
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To: SueRae
In other words, the U.S. is at active war with Russia.

No, its just sharing intel. Active for example, is when the Russians in the Vietnam War manned anti-aircraft batteries that fired and shot down US airplanes.

A special role was also played by Soviet anti-aircraft gunners. They not only trained Vietnamese People’s Army (VPA) personnel, but also took part in fighting themselves

https://www.rbth.com/history/332396-how-soviets-fought-against-americans

6 posted on 09/13/2022 5:50:58 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: Timber Rattler

HaHaHa
NYT and CNN propaganda today.
You sure love the sewer


7 posted on 09/13/2022 5:54:33 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: SueRae

No... not any more than we were when providing Stingers to the Mujahedin in Afghanistan in the 1980s.


8 posted on 09/13/2022 6:05:41 AM PDT by ScottinVA
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To: CarolinaReaganFan

What does Moonbat of Alabama have to say on the matter?


9 posted on 09/13/2022 6:06:16 AM PDT by ScottinVA
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To: SueRae
Installed and operated by Soviets:


10 posted on 09/13/2022 6:10:56 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: Lion Den Dan

Zero evidence of U.S. troops on the ground. Not even the Russians are claiming that, and they certainly would if they could.


11 posted on 09/13/2022 6:18:09 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: CarolinaReaganFan; Timber Rattler; SpeedyInTexas; dennisw; PIF; marcusmaximus; alexander_busek; ...

HeHeHe. You sure love Pooty and Russian rot.


12 posted on 09/13/2022 7:40:06 AM PDT by gleeaikin (pQuestion .)
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To: tlozo

Yep. This was teaching the Ukrainians the intelligence planning process, and then sharing intel from US sensors.

There is an intel staff that did a heck of a job going through the Intelligence Preparation of the Battlespace (IPB) process.

That is what won it. The really cool part of it is: now the Ukrainians know the process by practical application. They are going to beat the Russians like a rented mule now.


13 posted on 09/13/2022 8:30:53 AM PDT by Salvavida (“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.”)
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To: Timber Rattler
The "offensive" was completely meaningless from a military standpoint, you blithering, neocon jackass.

The whole purpose was to score a PR win and secure more US tax dollars and laundered to the right places.

It's time the Russians took the gloves off an started inflicting real pain on Ukraine, Ukrainian army and, hopefully on the NATO command centers. Anyone we have serving the woke army of Soros deserves to come back in a body bag.

14 posted on 09/13/2022 10:09:57 AM PDT by Kazan
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The "offensive" was completely meaningless from a military standpoint, you blithering, neocon jackass.

WATCH: Russian tanks abandoned on retaken Ukrainian territory

Russians Leave Behind Huge Arsenals of Ammunition While Retreating

Spoils Of War: Ukrainian Fighters Show Off Captured Russian Hardware


15 posted on 09/13/2022 10:38:58 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

Let’s see what the Ukrainian wonders and Army of Soros do Kherson against the actual Russian military. They will be slaughtered.


16 posted on 09/13/2022 4:30:04 PM PDT by Kazan
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