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Lavrov, we don't reject negotiations,there are complications
https://www.ansa.it/ ^ | 9/11/2022 | ANSA

Posted on 09/11/2022 12:49:48 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

Negotiations Russia "does not reject" negotiations with Ukraine, but there are some "delays that complicate the process" of negotiations.

This was said by Foreign Minister Serghei Lavrov quoted by Tass.

In an interview with Rossiya-1 television, Lavrov reported that Vladimir Putin convened a meeting with the Duma, the lower house of parliament, and leaders of the different factions. "The president told the participants that we do not reject negotiations," Lavrov stressed, but he accused the Ukrainians of delaying the process of negotiations. Kiev, Putin said again according to Lavrov's account, "should understand that the longer it delays the process, the more difficult it will be to negotiate with us."..

Chechen Kadyrov's ire "I, Ramzan Kadyrov, officially declare that all these cities (Izyum, Kupiansk and Balakliya) will be recaptured. Our people are already there, boys are trained for this work, another 10,000 fighters are ready to leave. And we will reach Odessa in the near future." This was said by Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov, in an audio message on Telegram picked up by Meduza, after the liberation of the three Ukrainian cities in eastern Ukraine yesterday by Kiev

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To: DesertRhino

“Yeah, but then the Uke Nazis will resume their 8 year artillery attacks on the Donbass areas that went independent.”

Wait! I thought your guys had wiped out all the “Nazis.” I mean, your side has been reporting that for months.


21 posted on 09/11/2022 2:07:57 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“I haven’t seen any credible report where Russia says they want all ukraine.”

It said that it wants all of Ukraine that Russia has annexed or will annex disarmed, neutral, and controlled by and subservient to Russia. So, it’s pretty much the same thing.


22 posted on 09/11/2022 2:11:50 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I haven’t seen any credible report where Russia says they want all ukraine Have you seen one?

Vladimir Putin reportedly claimed that “Ukraine is not even a state! What is Ukraine? A part of its territory is [in] Eastern Europe, but a[nother] part, a considerable one, was a gift from us!” In his March 18, 2014 speech marking the annexation of Crimea, Putin declared that Russians and Ukrainians “are one people. Kiev is the mother of Russian cities. Ancient Rus’ is our common source and we cannot live without each other.” As recently as February 2020, he once again stated in an interview that Ukrainians and Russians “are one and the same people”, and he insinuated that Ukrainian national identity had emerged as a product of foreign interference. Similarly, Russia’s then-Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev told a perplexed apparatchik in April 2016 that there has been “no state” in Ukraine, neither before nor after the 2014 crisis.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lseih/2020/07/01/there-is-no-ukraine-fact-checking-the-kremlins-version-of-ukrainian-history/

23 posted on 09/11/2022 2:14:43 PM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: Brian Griffin

I spoke with a group of refugees from around Kyiv today. Women who had first run here to Poland in March with their kids.

It is now safe to go back, but they came back here to earn money as there are no jobs there.

However all of them insisted that they want yo keep fighting Putin. Until Russia leaves all Ukrainian territory.

Otherwise they felt it would be disrespectful to those who have already given up their lives


24 posted on 09/11/2022 2:27:38 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: DesertRhino

yep, have to watch out for the Jewish Nazi’s

*rolls eyes*


25 posted on 09/11/2022 2:37:58 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
"I haven’t seen any credible report where Russia says they want all ukraine"

You have the attack on Kiev that was meant to decapitate and collapse the country.

You have the briefing by Belarus that showed the planned advancements.
Has Lukashenko accidentally revealed MOLDOVA will be invaded next? Belarus dictator addresses his security council in front of map that seems to detail Russia's battle plan for Ukraine

There's the Russian statement that was in a speech by Putin and was on the Kremlin web site that former soviet states don't have the right to exist apart from Russia.

Putin's 'surreal' version of Ukrainian history alarms experts Analysis: Saying "another nation doesn’t exist is something we need to pay attention to because it usually precedes atrocious actions,” one historian said.

Russia aims to boot former Soviet nations from NATO by relinquishing sovereign recognition: lawmaker

26 posted on 09/11/2022 2:43:46 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

So no?


27 posted on 09/11/2022 3:09:13 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: tlozo

So no?


28 posted on 09/11/2022 3:09:47 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: ought-six

I think they will complete their capture of everything east of the river.

Not all ukraine.


29 posted on 09/11/2022 3:11:07 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

All 4 of those are credible intelligence that Russia intended to take all of Ukraine.

If they only intended to take the Dombass, they wouldn’t have attacked Kiev, Kherson, or Mariupol. Nor would they have shelled Odessa.


30 posted on 09/11/2022 3:19:06 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

—> If they only intended to take the Dombass, they wouldn’t have attacked Kiev, Kherson, or Mariupol. Nor would they have shelled Odessa.

You may be right, but you are assuming there is no other possible explanation.

I do appreciate your taking time to dig up some links and posting them.


31 posted on 09/11/2022 4:18:12 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: DesertRhino

Well, that will be solved when the Ukrainians liberate the Donbass.


32 posted on 09/11/2022 4:27:54 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Um, no. The Russians have just had their butts kicked near Kharkov. Clearing the Donbass is probably next.

What is certain is that the Russians are on the defensive, and do not appear to have the reserves to counter attack.


33 posted on 09/11/2022 4:32:45 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

I doubt this will be resolved in 2022, nor 2023, so I’m not making any predictions nor claims.

I do hope the homoglobalists are dealt a severe setback or defeated.

I only feel for ordinary Uke and Russian citizens.

PS - I also feel for my kids, who would prefer to not fund this instead of their own priorities.


34 posted on 09/11/2022 4:52:01 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“I think they will complete their capture of everything east of the river.”

The Donets?


35 posted on 09/11/2022 5:05:40 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

😁

Russian forces


36 posted on 09/11/2022 5:18:50 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Yes, but east of what river? The Donets River?


37 posted on 09/11/2022 5:22:53 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Dnieper


38 posted on 09/11/2022 5:33:57 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“Dnieper.”

So, you admit that Putin’s claim that he just wanted to liberate the LPR and the DPR is bull@#$%. If Russia, as you project, will take everything east of the Dnieper (Dnipro); and Russia insists in its demand for Ukraine to disarm, demilitarize, declare complete neutrality, and install a pro-Russian government; how is that not a de facto taking of all of Ukraine?

Finally, I assume from one of your other posts referring to “homoglobalists” that you are taking Russia’s side in this war, or at least hoping for Ukraine’s defeat. Am I wrong in that assumption?


39 posted on 09/11/2022 6:17:23 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
So, you admit that Putin’s claim

No, I my opinion that is the intent. I could be totally wrong, since I have no original source. It is simply opinion based on what I've read. This is the [primarily] Russian speaking region. Since the first outbreak I believe that there will also be a push to take the entire sea coast in the south to join Transnitria.

how is that not a de facto taking of all of Ukraine?

Most of Ukraine is West of the river.

Finally, I assume from one of your other posts referring to “homoglobalists” that you are taking Russia’s side in this war, or at least hoping for Ukraine’s defeat. Am I wrong in that assumption?

No. I am taking no one's side.

I do believe both sides - Russia and the homogolobalists - are our enemies.

Both need to be handled.

The WEF/Soros/homoglobalists who want to enslave the world are the largest and most imminent threat to freedom.

If Russia can defeat them first, then we have time to contain Russia.

40 posted on 09/11/2022 7:46:17 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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