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1 posted on 09/11/2022 6:11:44 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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Article states:..... about $7 billion in weapons and equipment that was taken off the shelves so it could be delivered quickly to Ukraine.

Might explain the $7 Billion US took from Ukraine?


2 posted on 09/11/2022 6:14:31 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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After all, endless wars are just conventions to showcase new products.

Like a giant, mass murdering Tupperware party.


3 posted on 09/11/2022 6:17:02 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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Ha, ha, ha........ what irony

For the recent past, Vladimir Putin has been in Syria where he invites Generals as customers to see Russian arms up close. Putin flies planes all over near NATO and American Borders to get free media advertising for Russian arms. (Russia has for sale oil, gas, wheat and arms, no manufactured products)

Putin starts a war and American arms manufacturers reap the benefits while his touted weapons lie for the world to see in rusted roadside hulks all over Ukraine


4 posted on 09/11/2022 6:20:10 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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And, of course, Democrats LOVE to sell our tech to China.
DemocRATs are the enemy.
Always have been.
Always will be.
Until.......we do something about it..........


5 posted on 09/11/2022 6:20:35 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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I have sold most of my stocks...except for a few.

One is Lockheed Martin.


7 posted on 09/11/2022 6:22:34 AM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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Our #1 product in the US is Arms. We are the worlds largest arms dealer. This war in Ukraine is our sales demonstrations.


10 posted on 09/11/2022 6:29:40 AM PDT by realcleanguy (quickly things are falling apart, now that the )
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Didn’t Ike warn us about such goings on?


11 posted on 09/11/2022 6:31:20 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protectio)
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AP is fake news


14 posted on 09/11/2022 6:36:15 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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Of course, Ukraine blood being traded for an insignificant PR win and more $$$$$ for the money laundering operation that this war has become.

And, Timber wants to spend endless amounts of taxpayer money on a war that has absolutely nothing to do with our national security.

How is the money from this war filtering down to you, Timber? That's the real question with anyone obsessed with keeping us involved in this war.

17 posted on 09/11/2022 6:42:19 AM PDT by Kazan
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“Allies”... until China tells them otherwise.

.gov still hasn’t figured out that your real friends and allies don’t require handouts and cash infusions.


18 posted on 09/11/2022 6:43:59 AM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (A Republic - if you can keep it.)
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$33 million is the lesser part of the value of the HIMARS transfers. The vehicle is pretty simple and cheap as these things go. The missiles though are likely the greater cost by far. The US might have sent @ 5,000 rounds so far, at $100K each, thats $500 million.

But even that, given its crippling, even decisive effect, is cheap at the price. It seems to have pecked the Russian army into paralysis.

Also note the price. Attempting to intercept HIMARS shots is a losing proposition. One needs several times more SAM launchers than HIMARS, and at least an equal supply of more expensive supersonic SAM munitions, to only partially protect a target from a HIMARS barrage.

Everybody needs HIMARS!

And I will modify my advice re Taiwan - Taiwan needs a few hundred HIMARS. The Chinese coast is well within range of the bigger ATACMS missiles. These should be able to do a number on Chinese air bases, munitions depots, ports, SAMs and missile infrastructure pretty deep into the interior. HIMARS is highly road-mobile, so almost immune to Chinese ballistic missile attack, scooting around Taiwans messy hill terrain.


26 posted on 09/11/2022 7:36:47 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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Allies push for US weaponry after seeing impact in Ukraine

And I'm sure we will supply it, even if our forces are caught short, AS LONG AS THERE'S A PAYOFF TO HUNTER AND "The BIG GUY".

40 posted on 09/11/2022 9:05:47 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Ultra MAGA in Biden's Post Constitutional United Socialist States of Amerika!)
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While most of this thread goes off into the weeds, there is an immediate problem.

The contracted items could take several years to come in.

It would seem there are no contingency / already thought out plans for seriously ramping up production. In the CBS(?) piece on HIMARS, the CEO of the plant that makes the missiles indicated they could increase production by a measly 25%; more than that they'd have to study. (I'm not sure if "study" was the exact word he used, but, that was basically the gist of it.) I nearly passed out. How can no one think ahead about such a thing?

44 posted on 09/11/2022 10:50:10 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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$$$$$


49 posted on 09/11/2022 12:07:35 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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Our Father, who art in Heaven, Hallowed by thy name...

I wonder what he thinks about the country founded on the promises of those who won Liberty from Britain with his hand, now is the leading killer on Earth, year in and year out. Without the Arms industry and the constant war footing against people who are not attacking us. We have a large hand in the murders.

Self defense is fine, but we instigate the wars, sell both sides guns and grain. The arms industry makes a killing, and they then kick back in the form of donations, and no show jobs for Generals.

Our nation from the top down, is despicable and I am embarrassed. The middle and lower class get along fine, I love you all my brothers. The upper class and the servant nay Ruling class rolls in dough, making bread with the blood they shed.

We need to have a national day of prayer to ask forgiveness, not for the dead on 9-11 only, but for all those who die because our Servants do our heritage dirty.


52 posted on 09/11/2022 12:33:40 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (Seriously, what ever happened to Campaign finance limits?)
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I’m not a rocket scientist, but should we put these out there
for China and Russia to copy or figure out how to defeat?


56 posted on 09/11/2022 1:17:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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The USA could easily sell off its older, mothballed stuff to India and get political beanie points


60 posted on 09/12/2022 1:23:37 AM PDT by Cronos
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