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Credit card firms to code gun, ammunition purchases, making them easier to track [Always use cash to buy guns and ammunition]
Just the News ^ | September 10, 2022 | Steve Bittenbender

Posted on 09/10/2022 8:08:38 AM PDT by grundle

Decision comes a week after New York and California asked American Express, Mastercard and Visa to support a merchant category code.

The international organization responsible for creating merchant category codes for credit card purchases has given its approval to establish one for transactions made at gun stores.

The International Organization for Standardization’s Registration and Maintenance Management Group met on Wednesday to discuss a request made by Amalgamated Bank to set up such a code.

An ISO spokesperson told The Center Square that RMMG members could not decide whether to approve the application. That elevated the discussion to the ISO leadership that oversees standards for retail financial services.

“Considering the application met all the criteria from ISO 18245 and no material arguments pertaining to the approval criteria outlined in the ISO 18245 standard to reject the code were made, SC9 leadership has approved this MCC application in order to comply with the standard,” the ISO said in a statement provided by Maria Lazarte, the organization’s team leader for media and engagement.

That decision came less than a week after New York Attorney General Letitia James and California Attorney General Rob Bonta sent a letter to chief executives at American Express, Mastercard and Visa, urging them to support a merchant category code. They called for the code, noting that other industry-specific retailers have their own codes. The attorneys general also said it could help identify suspicious activity that could prevent a mass shooting or stop gun trafficking.

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul, on Wednesday morning, also tweeted in support of an MCC.

“Together we can help stop gun trafficking & keep New Yorkers safe,” she posted.

Opponents of the measure included the National Rifle Association and the National Shooting Sports Foundation.

In a statement to The Center Square, Mark Oliva, the organization’s managing director for public affairs, slammed the move, saying the creation of the code was “flawed on its premise. Those who believe it will help law enforcement do not provide details on what should be considered suspicious purchases."

“This decision chills the free exercise of Constitutionally-protected rights and does nothing to assist law enforcement with crime prevention or holding criminals accountable,” he said. “The Department of Justice’s Bureau of Justice Statistics consistently shows in their own reporting that 90% of felons convicted of their crimes involving a firearm admit they illegally obtain those guns through theft or trading on the black market. Attaching codes specific to firearm and ammunition purchases casts a dark pall by gun control advocates who are only interested in disarming lawful gun owners.”

Oliva added supporters of the MCC actually hope to stop purchases of guns and ammunition through credit cards.

“Credit card companies have previously publicly resisted this because they understand it is not in their interest to monitor lawful private purchases,” he added.

It’s uncertain at this time when the MCC would take effect.

American Express, through a statement provided by Vice President of Corporate Affairs and Communications Andrew Johnson, said that it will follow the standard business practices, as it does anytime the ISO develops a new MCC.

“It is important to note that MCC codes are one of many data points that help us understand the industries in which our merchants operate,” the statement read. “We are focused on ensuring that we have the right controls in place to meet our regulatory and fiduciary responsibilities, as well as prevent illegal activity​ on our network.”

Messages to James, Hochul, Mastercard, Visa and Amalgamated Bank were not immediately returned.


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1 posted on 09/10/2022 8:08:38 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Biden is removing Cash on Dec 13 and issuing Digital Spyware Biden Bucks


2 posted on 09/10/2022 8:10:03 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: grundle

Options:

Bitcoin
Mailed Cashiers Checks
Cash App


3 posted on 09/10/2022 8:10:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: butlerweave
Biden is removing Cash on Dec 13 and issuing Digital Spyware Biden Bucks

Damn. Who'd have thought the AntiChrist would be a dementia-ridden doddering grumpy old man.

4 posted on 09/10/2022 8:12:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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“Together we can help stop gun trafficking & keep New Yorkers safe” -- New York Gov. Kathy Hochul

Lawful purchases of guns and ammunition is now "gun trafficking."

5 posted on 09/10/2022 8:12:26 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“I used to be nothing but a Deplorable and Clinger, but I've been promoted to Ultra-MAGA”)
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Seems like you’d go and buy crypto currency with your credit card, then turn around to buy ammo/guns with the crypto.


6 posted on 09/10/2022 8:12:38 AM PDT by pepsionice
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“Biden is removing Cash on Dec 13”

Huh? Did I miss something?


7 posted on 09/10/2022 8:12:58 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“I used to be nothing but a Deplorable and Clinger, but I've been promoted to Ultra-MAGA”)
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To: Lazamataz

I hear that Bitcoin isn’t anonymous, but Monero is.


8 posted on 09/10/2022 8:14:08 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: grundle

Oh look, people are now saying use cash. I have been using cash for purchases for decades and could not care less about not getting the cash back from credit cards.


9 posted on 09/10/2022 8:15:36 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: grundle

I really don’t like living in a dystopian future.


10 posted on 09/10/2022 8:19:04 AM PDT by Skywise
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How does the credit card know whether I’m buying ammo or something else? All they should see is a charge at the shooting range.


11 posted on 09/10/2022 8:22:24 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (I do not recognize Biden’s authority. (@FeistyFed on TS) 🐝)
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The local gun store I use has a credit company store branded card (Synchrony). I get 6 mos no interest up to 699.00, and 12 mos no interest over that. Synchrony services several sports retailers. I would guess that there are others that do the same, Academy comes to mind, and im sure they know what has been purchased. f visa and master(bait) card.


12 posted on 09/10/2022 8:22:38 AM PDT by BudgieRamone (Everybody loves a bonk on the head)
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If guns are under $500, you can use gift cards too-


13 posted on 09/10/2022 8:23:27 AM PDT by Bob434 (question)
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Backdoor gun registration. They’ll know who owns guns and what calibers.


14 posted on 09/10/2022 8:24:19 AM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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There’s really no getting around the tracking aspect of it all. Even if you pay cash, they still use facial recognition cameras everywhere - so you’re going to get “busted”.

It’s not illegal (yet), and if you think you’re not on some list you are incredibly naive, because I can promise you that you are.


15 posted on 09/10/2022 8:24:55 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Not A Snowbird

There will likely be codes for each item.


16 posted on 09/10/2022 8:26:10 AM PDT by Bob434 (question)
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To: grundle

I’d give others cash to put my ammo and accessories on their credit cards. Instead of it looking like fewer ammo and firearm accessory buyers, it would look like exponentially more.


17 posted on 09/10/2022 8:26:11 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: grundle

No problem for me, I dont live in NY or Cali, and never will


18 posted on 09/10/2022 8:29:22 AM PDT by baclava
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Of course my first question is who here doesn't need a forklift to move their ammo inventory around?! /s
19 posted on 09/10/2022 8:34:49 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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...which is all why “they” need to kill off all forms of cash -— so EVERYTHING you buy can be part of your Comprehensive Consumer Profile, which should tell a lot about just who you are, and what you’re likely to do.


20 posted on 09/10/2022 8:36:09 AM PDT by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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